| [ Total Views: 745 | Total Replies: 8 | Thread Id: 20090 ] |
|
|
franko
Commited Dubber

Posts: 67
Threads: 20
Registered: October 23rd, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: cruze-e
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 04:33 PM |
|
|
help a rank ammatuer
ok folks,what could i have done when i put my top end together to make it all ass about??have changed all ignition bits and timed it statically,done
valves etc, but i still only get backfiring through the carbs.what are the possibilities?
if its a kombi and its going too slow, just relax its having a go!
|
|
|
modulus
A.k.a.: Peter Hill
Veteran Volks Folk
   
Posts: 2009
Threads: 76
Registered: July 1st, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro White
Mood: modular
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 05:02 PM |
|
|
Timing.
1. Check that the plug leads are in the right order. Print out a cheat sheet from the Kombi site at
http://www.aussiekombicampers.com/cheat_sheets.shtml
and use it to check that your firing order is 1-4-3-2 as indicated.
2. Recheck you static timeing.
Backfiring through the carbs usually indicates that you're firing a spark plug with the inlet valve open.
hth
|
|
|
helbus
A.k.a.: Pete S
Super Administrator
Mad fabricator, paint and body
       
Posts: 7386
Threads: 312
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: In the garage chopping cars into bits
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: In the thinking chair
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 05:08 PM |
|
|
When I put our kombi motor together, I had this problem and it was just that I had the distributor 180 degrees out.
I had to take the distributor extension shaft thing out and change it 180 degrees.
Be very careful not to drop the washer in the case though. :thumb
|
|
|
franko
Commited Dubber

Posts: 67
Threads: 20
Registered: October 23rd, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: cruze-e
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 05:32 PM |
|
|
thanks guys,ill have a look.although ive checked the firing order a hundred times hoping id put the leads back on wrong.helbus, where is the notch for
no. one roughly pointing when your dissy is the right way?
[Edited on 9-3-2004 by franko]
if its a kombi and its going too slow, just relax its having a go!
|
|
|
helbus
A.k.a.: Pete S
Super Administrator
Mad fabricator, paint and body
       
Posts: 7386
Threads: 312
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: In the garage chopping cars into bits
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: In the thinking chair
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 06:04 PM |
|
|
When it happened to me, I found the quickest way to check if the shaft is 180 degrees out is to swap the leads as they are now, diagonally, or two
places around if you like.
If it runs like that, then the shaft is 180 out. You can leave it like that, but it will confuse the heck out of someone in the future.
When I swapped mine, it started and ran straight away. I then had to turn the shaft 180, and put the leads back to make it original.
|
|
|
franko
Commited Dubber

Posts: 67
Threads: 20
Registered: October 23rd, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: cruze-e
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 06:32 PM |
|
|
excellent!!!something i can try.thanks
if its a kombi and its going too slow, just relax its having a go!
|
|
|
franko
Commited Dubber

Posts: 67
Threads: 20
Registered: October 23rd, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: cruze-e
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 06:41 PM |
|
|
you farkin legend!!!!!!started first pop as you said.ive been going mad trying to work it out.if i leave it like this do i have to redo valves?
if its a kombi and its going too slow, just relax its having a go!
|
|
|
helbus
A.k.a.: Pete S
Super Administrator
Mad fabricator, paint and body
       
Posts: 7386
Threads: 312
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: In the garage chopping cars into bits
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: In the thinking chair
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 07:06 PM |
|
|
I think if the cam on the shaft of the dizzy has a different lobe for no.3 to retard. (to alleviate overheating of no.3) Then you would be advised to
go back to original.
I think also being 180 out means that no.1 does not line up with the little "l" mark on the dizzy, but 180 out also.
I suppose mechanically it helps you out, because you know the motor is not a dud.
I redid the valves the next day after the motor cooled down again. I ran it for about 15 minutes when I first got it going.
Still going now 18,000 k's later.
|
|
|
Menangler
A.k.a.: Dave Becker
Custom Title Time!
   
Posts: 1991
Threads: 309
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: South Coast NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 07:11 PM |
|
|
I would check the valves again, If you did them 180 out they will be very loose.
If you have installed your dizzy drive gear 180 out in the case, the easy way to fix it is remove the round spring off the drive on the dizzy, knock
the pin out of the drive thingo and change it 180 around on the shaft, beats trying to get the dizzy drive out of the case with out dropping the
washers.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

|
|
|
helbus
A.k.a.: Pete S
Super Administrator
Mad fabricator, paint and body
       
Posts: 7386
Threads: 312
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: In the garage chopping cars into bits
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: In the thinking chair
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 07:22 PM |
|
|
Why didnt I think of that.
I was packing it while taking the dizzy drive out, because dropping one of those washers would be an engine out job if it fell right down. Yeah?
|
|
|
franko
Commited Dubber

Posts: 67
Threads: 20
Registered: October 23rd, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: cruze-e
|
| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 07:26 PM |
|
|
thanks again helbus,and yea dave,thanks,i think ill do that.if i stuff that up its not as bad as dropping the washer.(which id probably do).sure feels
good to be back in bussiness!!!
if its a kombi and its going too slow, just relax its having a go!
|
|
|