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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 06:38 PM |
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Replacing Starter Bushes
Have some starter issues on a '74 1300 beetle (new 1600). I have removed the starter and there is a lot of play in the shaft. I am about to
dismantle it to get to the offending bushes. Two things.
Any advice on things to do or pitfalls to avoid in this seemingly simple procedure.
Second, is there an easy way to remove the bush in the gearbox while the engine is still attached? (Please someone answer yes)
Thanks in advance.
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 07:03 PM |
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YES you screw a 10mm tap into the starter bush in threw the hole where the starter goes in(BEING CAREFUL NOT TO DROP IT) or you will be pulling the
motor out to retreve the tap, then as you wind the tap in it will bottom out then continue turning the tap and it will pull the bush out. Then make
sure you oil the new bush before fitting,now the way to do this is toput the bush on your thumb then fill the centre FULL off oil then push your index
finger against the other end and apply some pressure, and because the bushs are pourus oil should ouse out threw the pours, if this does not happen on
the first attempt repeat the procese to it does!!!!. Last of all carefully fit the new bush being carefull not to damage it as you fit it. Now this
discription is if everything is all right for any more quiries give me a ring on 0411556744 Andrew
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 07:30 PM |
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LittleRalph,
That's the story I've been told also, but it still sounds hard!
What I'll offer is, if you can get it to my place (Everton Hills) on the weekend, you can use my vehicle hoist, may be a bit easier???
Maybe Andrew will offer to show you how it's done?
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 08:23 PM |
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Its a hell of a lot easier with the engine out. You tap it out, and tap in the new one, takes 5 mins. And u can do other stuff like check your
release bearing, clutch, endplay and anything else while u have the engine out
Jon
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 08:36 PM |
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sounds like fun, think i will be doing the same this weekend.
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 08:39 PM |
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Well Che Castro , if you can get the motor out and in ,in under an hour be my guest but you can ask any VW mechanic and you will get a very similar
method( AND NO I AM NOT A VW MECHANIC) but yes i am an enthuiust that does not spend money on an unnessasary engine extraction. Thank's for the offer
of the hoist time old dubber but sorry i will be away, but Little Ralph i would take advantage of this offer as it will make it easier for the
extraction and replacement of the bush.
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 08:58 PM |
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Thanks for such quick help guys. I'd love to take up the offer of the hoist time but the weekend is pretty full. I'm trying to rearrange the
schedule a little to fit in some time to scratch myself but it doesn't look promising. I have a set of ramps that provides just enough room for a
good amount of arm movement.
I'll give the tap idea a run. Sounds pretty promising.
My first love, oops car, was a baja. I would have dropped the engine out of that one for this process but not with all the bodywork still attached.
It's only been back in for about 15K since it grew up to a 1600.
I'll post back with success or otherwise in case someone picks up this thread some other time for info sake.
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| posted on May 17th, 2004 at 11:05 PM |
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Hi
If you use a semi auto starter they are self supporting and dont need a bush, they also sound cool.
1302Steve
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| posted on May 18th, 2004 at 09:51 AM |
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Hehe good suggestion steve 
I'm an enthusiast too! It's not that hard to pull the engine, when i first did it, it took a couple of hours. I can do it a lot quicker than that
now. It's a lot easier than you think, and may take less time than tapping a thread and pulling it out. I'm guessing it will be difficult to tap a
good thread, and yank out the bushing from underneath with the engine in, there isn't much space to work in.
Jon
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| posted on May 26th, 2004 at 11:07 PM |
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Just to keep you posted if you're following the thread.
Pulled out the started and stripped it down. The bushes weren't that bad after all. I still intend to replace but am tossing up the options.
I found that the brushes were bearly making contact with the commutator so replaced them. This has got me going again but the starter still turns
over but slowly. This is how it was when it started dying. There are no obvious marks on the centre shaft or windings where there was contact made
due to worn bushes.
My next investigation is the current being drawn and poor electrical connections. I'm just on the scrounge for an inductive ammeter that can give me
the readings on current drawn during starting. Finding the time is more difficult than finding the tools at present so I'll just parking on hills in
the mean time.
BTW where would I get a semi auto starter and how much would it be? (And how does it sound anyway?)
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| posted on May 26th, 2004 at 11:14 PM |
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Hi
Try a wrecker for a semi auto starter, you have to pay around 50 - 150. They sound like an air starter in a semi, a bit quieter though and they turn
the motor much faster.
1302Steve
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