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 seagull
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 12:57 AM |
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You will see  if you dont sell 10 sets to the turbo guys i will be very
supprised .I sold 23 in one day as far away as darwin .
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 12:59 AM |
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hahha yeh sweet
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 01:02 AM |
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after talking to chopper over here tonight his turbo notch needs this fitted to make it more driveable .
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 01:03 AM |
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wat exatly does it do? is it just for adjusting the boost up and down
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 01:08 AM |
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in an nut shell it allows you to SET how quickly you would like the boost to come on .This is as well how heigh it goes and to stop wast gate creep to
0.
I have one guy that buys these this is all he does all day this mod to cars .
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Alex Holzl
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 01:09 AM |
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oh i see now yeh sound like it would be good for drivability... must sleep speck to you later
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 01:12 AM |
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good night
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 07:19 AM |
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My apologies for not replying sooner to all, servo went nuts.
Too bloody cold up here in Toowoomba!!
I have a '68 beetle with a 2.3 with ida's
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 08:47 AM |
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Seagull and Alex - for Christ sake just pick up the phone and speak to each other. Reading this post was like reading a transcript from the world's
most boring conversation competition.
> Don't you think?
> Why yes I do.
> You finishing this post now?
> Yeah I think so.
>Bye
> CYA
>CT
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 01:26 PM |
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posted by fullnoise
Seagull and Alex - for Christ sake just pick up the phone and speak to each other.
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One word - messenger!!!
Alex has got it - Seagull hasn't listed his.
I agree with you CT. It really thins out the useful info in these posts and doesn't need to be recorded / archived.
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 02:47 PM |
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Hey Guys,
Speaking of horsepower per engine size..
I was over at young Steve Natoli's the other week and he showed me the dyno results for his 2007cc IDA powered bug.
138hp at cbb and was running lean at the top end..... Is hoping for about 142 with proper jetting.
Matt
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 03:39 PM |
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yeh stevos cars in a MACHINE alright!!! it move quick... that was the motor out of my car... sound awsome with straight cut cams gears..
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 03:54 PM |
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Steve wins the horse power per litre at the rear wheel challenge. His 2007 makes a stomping 68.8.
Troy's 1916 is second with 63.2.
That's pretty damn good if you convert it back to flywheel horsepower. These old lawn mowers can be pretty efficient.
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 04:21 PM |
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Hey Alex,
It was injected when you had it... Is that the injection you have on the new motor?
I may have found a micro tech system with 50 mm throttle bodies, I have to check it out.
I also spoke to Darren Gurrola about some of his heads this morning...designed for 175-200hp... dont ask me the cost!!!!! Heads is where the power
is, so I will order them tomorrow.
http://www.drdracingheads.com
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 04:51 PM |
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Hey who was it that had 153hp a little while ago? and what makes the difference between something like jak's car and 153hp car, if i remember they
seem similar in specs at a glance?
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| posted on June 30th, 2004 at 05:40 PM |
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yeh mine still fuel injection with 50 mm throttle bodies. compression makes a dif and fuel you run it on..
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 09:25 AM |
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Heads are a pretty big factor.
Matt
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 10:02 AM |
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No CT, Dave Beckers is second with 66 hp/l (2176cc 143.6hp).
I think his chart was posted after your post in this thread though....
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 10:15 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Hey who was it that had 153hp a little while ago? and what makes the difference between something like jak's car and 153hp car, if i remember they
seem similar in specs at a glance?
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Heads , compression & cam duration.
Jak
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 10:44 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Jak Rizzo
| Quote: | Originally
posted by BiX
Hey who was it that had 153hp a little while ago? and what makes the difference between something like jak's car and 153hp car, if i remember they
seem similar in specs at a glance?
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Heads , compression & cam duration.
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And a stinger...which gave about 20hp on the dyno.
And it was 143hp, that's if we are talking about Daves car.
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 01:07 PM |
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Power per litre
Hi Yall,
When Alex posted his results some people said, Gee I thought an engine that size would make more power. At that point I figured that his engine sounds
big at 2332 but it is really only 22% bigger than my 1916. So to see how the two compared I divided the horse power by the engine size. I moved the
decimal point up 3 places to get HP per litre rather than per cubic centimeter.
That led to the following which I think is damn interesting.
Steve 2007 68.8 HP per litre at the rear wheels (big $ berg heads)
Dave Becker 2174 66.1 " (street eliminators - ported and polished locally)
Troy 1916 63.2 " (p & p or cnc roundport 044s)
Alex 2332 58.4 " (street eliminators p & p locally)
Craig 1916 57.9 (street eliminators p & p by CB)
That leads me to believe the old saying that the power is in the heads. Those engines are many different cams, compression ratios and capacities
there.
What do others think?
Sorry if this is too constructive and not abusive and petty.
CYA CT
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 01:20 PM |
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What are the compression ratio's of all of these engines????
What carby's do they all run??
What muffler systems did these engines have at the time of the dyno??
What fuels did these engines use at the time on the dyno??
What is the purpose of the car?? [daily driver, hillclimber,hot street or strip]
And finally how fresh were these engines when they were dyno'd??????????
Cheers Craig Paton.:blah
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 01:20 PM |
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good comparison CT.
.........but it really comes down to the combo suited for the end use.
Take my combination/engine for example........... If I leave my motor exactly the same but only change the cam.........to say a fk89 (great HP cam for
Drags) my engine would produce a lot more than what it has now. The down side would be that I loose the out of corner grunt and rev range I now have
for hillclimb.
Instead of looking at the heads, what cam do the top two use.............FK89...best for peak HP.
It still gets back to the combination, I would be surprised if you can just narrow it down to heads........................although I may have a set
of Eliminators for sale !!!(spare set, not off my motor!
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[Edited on 1-7-2004 by Craig Torrens]
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 02:17 PM |
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Fair point Craig. Perhaps then, a level playing field could be created by creating another hp and torque curve where each figure is divided by the
engine size.
Then you could even chime in with a bang for your bucks index.
I bet the dyno dynamics software could build curves that show horsepower per litre at each rpm.
CYA CT :blah
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| posted on July 2nd, 2004 at 11:33 PM |
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Hey Alex , was Dieter still priming the throttle bodies with a Coke bottle on the dyno?
Nice to see you got the beast running. I am sure there is more HP to come from this little number.
Mitchell
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| posted on July 3rd, 2004 at 11:00 PM |
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hahaha no we found out that the computer runs throw the taco to sence when the motor is cranking so it can give the right amount of fuel..
alex
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| posted on July 7th, 2004 at 11:48 PM |
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bump for 71 super
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| posted on July 7th, 2004 at 11:56 PM |
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You should only use tacos if you're running a mexican case. I find burritos are also far too squishy for fuel injection setups 
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