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 Che Castro
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| posted on November 1st, 2004 at 11:17 PM |
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braided lines
hey guys,
anyone know if stainless braided brake lines are legal for street registered cars in NSW?
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| posted on November 1st, 2004 at 11:31 PM |
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I'm only guessing John, but they are sold and used on road registered cars.. and they are better-safer than non braided..
I would have to say YES ...
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| posted on November 1st, 2004 at 11:41 PM |
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Yes My mate hasss lines braided ADR legal lines I just got mine last week , the machine cost over 50K then stock 40K
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| posted on November 1st, 2004 at 11:44 PM |
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Hi
Its a gray area, Ive been told no unless they are OEM
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 12:06 AM |
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Does some idiot think they are inferior???
to rubber lines...
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 07:43 AM |
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I posted the question on performance forums and people say they are compliant http://pforums.company-hosting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67182256
I actually got some made at ENZED in mascot yesterday. They have the proper crimped fittings done by a big machine, have the ADR compliant rubber
sleeves and were pressure tested to 3000 PSI and marked as passed. The guy said they were ADR compliant and legal.
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 07:44 AM |
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it depends on the construction of the line ends Lee. only one construction type of braded brake lines are ADR approved, and none of them are the
imported ones.
Carter's Clutches in Maitland make ADR approved lines road legal. they make them to your specificaton and will post them to you if you don't live in
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 08:12 AM |
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The legal ones carry tags. Usually yellow and have to stay on the lines.
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 08:16 AM |
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Damn, does anyone kow about QLD?
I was planning to full fit out my motor eventually with goodridge lines.
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 09:10 AM |
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never heard anything about the yellow tags?
Anyway they guy yesterday crimped them and pressure tested them, they were then stamped with a punch on the fittings with a number and a marking.
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| posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 09:20 PM |
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Jon,
speak to a qualified automotive engineer and he'll tell you.
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| posted on November 3rd, 2004 at 03:15 PM |
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Hi
Lee; The reason that the RTA think they are inferior is because in a street application the braided mesh sleeve will allow the ingress of small
particles from road grime, these particles will eventually chafe the nylon line underneath causing a failure.
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| posted on November 3rd, 2004 at 10:30 PM |
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don't know about pressure testing but the only ones compliant for racing have the tags on them which means with both ends secured they must be able
to do 1000 revoloutions without any damage(so i'm told)
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 01:35 AM |
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The ones I have here are stamped for ADR ( australia wide ) The tag is red / yellow / blue / gun metal Brian will put what you like on there on the
day .
How about I post a photo for you to see
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 06:30 AM |
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When we were looking at fitting them to our bikes, the legal ones all had either a clear or coloured sheath over the braid, so I'm guessing that was
to address the chaffing issue that Steve mentioned.
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 07:41 AM |
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yeah if you could post a photo that'd be good
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 08:28 AM |
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yeah the lines I have, have a clear nylon sheath on top of the braiding which prevents crap getting in
Jon
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 01:27 PM |
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Braided brake hoses are made with teflon inner lining not nylon. The main problems with them are that you cannot see the lining to check it's
condition and in some circumstances the stainless steel wires snap penetrating the lining, causing them to leak. Take a look at this article, it's
US based but outlines the basics. http://www.shotimes.com/SHO4steelbrakelines.html
I would also check with your insurance company before fitting them as insurance companies can often be fussier than the roads authority.
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 01:40 PM |
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Good info on that link, cheers
So I gather that braided oil lines are ok to use?
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 02:10 PM |
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I don't know, where do you plan on using them? Again, funny as it might sound I would advise my insurance co. of any such changes as there would be
nothing worse than having an accident and being told "oh, that's not standard, sorry your policy is voided"
I was once quoted about $50/m for braided fuel hose and that was enough to put me off.
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 02:19 PM |
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good link there.
Might give shannons a call and see what they think.
Stainless for oil lines is fine. They are under much much less pressure. Brakes are somewhere around up to 3000 PSI.
[Edited on 4-11-2004 by Che Castro]
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 02:23 PM |
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yep its the fittings that cost $$$. the line isnt really that exxy.
I did used to have this rubber hose which had rubber in the inner layer, then a layer of stainless braiding then another rubber layer on the outside.
Jon
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| posted on November 6th, 2004 at 08:59 AM |
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I did all my fuel from the frame forks back, in a -6 line through to the carbs, and all the oil lines in a -8 (just pump - filter - case) and it cost
about 350 (NZ$). Includes the block for a fuel pressure gauge.
After having these on a car its hard to go back to the rubber crap.
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| posted on November 6th, 2004 at 09:41 AM |
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heres a good link
http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/
they are a group of brake shops around oz that do street legal lines
Jon
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