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 jo_tas
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| posted on November 24th, 2004 at 06:54 PM |
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Type 3 Distributor Woes
Hello again..
Apparantly the thing in my distributor wich the points bolt to (getting all technical here) is worn and loose, so i need a new distributor.
Now i already have a good feeling that i'm better off going to an electronic dizzy as i've had nothing but problems with points and timing etc.
I've heard alot about these "Bosch 009" Dizzy's and wanted to know... are they electronic?
Also, are these the best for my situation?
And, how much and where can i get one? Anyone got one they can sell me cheap?
This is on a stock type 3 1600 (1972 model)
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| posted on November 24th, 2004 at 07:21 PM |
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The 009 dissy is mechanical.
Buy a new one as you might have the same problem using a S/H one there reasonably priced.
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| posted on November 24th, 2004 at 07:44 PM |
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volksbahn in pendle hill in sydney have them 009s for $140+gst. i know it's not local to you but it should give you some idea, can't imagine places
being much different on that price.
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| posted on November 24th, 2004 at 07:55 PM |
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so what advantage does a 009 have over a standard VW dizzy? |
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| posted on November 25th, 2004 at 09:25 AM |
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*bump* |
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| posted on November 25th, 2004 at 09:46 AM |
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The 009 debate has come up often before, so search the old posts to get some more info on 009 compared to stock. It often gets quite heated :thumb
The difference is 009 is mechanical only advance and stock for a type 3 is mechanical and vacuum advance (what model/year do you have?). With an
otherwise stock motor, the stock distributor will probably be a little more drivable, though I've never used a 009 on a type 3 to compare.
Another thing to remember is the "electronics" you mention only replaces the points in the distributor, so if the distributor is cactus, a new
electronic pick up will not fix the problem. Sure points can be a pain, but if maintained they are simple and reliable.
As for your problem, you need to know the the reason for the failure. As Dave said new may be best, but it will probably limit your choice to the 009,
or pay big dollars for one. If you look for second hand, make sure you know what your looking for or it may be as bad as the one you have. That or buy
from second hand from a trusted source.
Hope that helps!
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| posted on November 25th, 2004 at 09:48 AM |
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None at all, they are used because they are a one size fits all and they are still being made. Original VW distributors are no longer made. 009s are
poorer quality than the original units and have alot more variation in the advance curves between individual units.
You will probably find that a 009 on a 1600 will result in hesitation or a flat spot during acceleration. This can be tuned out by installing larger
jets in your carbs or you can just live with it.
I have heard that the electronic points units are not all that reliable and can last as little as two years, but others may have first hand experience
with these. I would say that your timing problems are a result of your worn dizzy and if you get it fixed or replace it the timing probs will
disappear.
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| posted on November 25th, 2004 at 09:51 AM |
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Ok, thats food for thought.. i guess i just have to determine waht kind of distributor it has now! |
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| posted on November 25th, 2004 at 10:07 AM |
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If you can remove it, have a look at the part no on the side of the case.
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| posted on November 25th, 2004 at 07:41 PM |
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post a piccy, ive a few t3 dizzies too |
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| posted on November 27th, 2004 at 06:48 PM |
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I ran a 009 on a T3. They run fine with the dual carbs on a T3. If you hate points run a pertronix or compufire points replacement module.
Generally a 009 will give you 22 degrees advance.
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 11:21 AM |
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found a good dizzy
I looked through my crates of treasures today and came up with a real good original type 3 dizzy
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 11:24 AM |
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looks like the one in the manual piccy you sent
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 11:32 AM |
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thing is the piccy you sent looks like a single vacuum dual advance dizzy. Like the one next to the t3 one in the piccy above. Its a lot deeper. I
think the manual piccy you have and the t3 dizzy pictured are early ones as they are pure vacuum advance, no mechanical. The one in your car doesnt
look like the piccy of the one in your manual.
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421574866/7.jpg
If you get the numbers off the one you have I can prob still match it.
This dizzy seems in nice nick, screws good, threads good no chunks or straches in the lobes, vacuum can works smoothly.
kkk
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 11:35 AM |
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 11:40 AM |
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 01:29 PM |
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hmm.. well i can't see any numbers without pulling it out, but mine seems to actually be the one on the right in the last pic, it has the
taller/longer body..
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 01:44 PM |
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longer dissy with vac only could be donor from Beetle/Kombi?
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 01:49 PM |
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funny you should say that, becuase when the motor was getting an overhaul, my mechanic sad that the motor has a beetle block, becuase it has a blocked
off oil filler where it would be in a beetle... hmmm
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 01:53 PM |
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take a wider view of the engine Jo, a make up mirror can be used to get the numbers could have a different one than standard. I think the t3 ones
have the vacuum can in a different angle so it misses the generator |
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 02:05 PM |
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How's this? and yes, my camera CAN actually focus....sometimes
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| posted on December 15th, 2004 at 02:26 PM |
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