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 RENNWAGEN
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 09:54 AM |
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Shaved door handles, leagal or not?
Ive just been told by a supplier I was looking to by solenoids fom that shaved door handles are ilegal in some states. Has anybody had any experience
with this in NSW?
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 10:44 AM |
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Why would they be Illegal.... there fitted to just about every make of modern car
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 10:44 AM |
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or this
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 10:52 AM |
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He means no handle/latch... just a solendoid....
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 10:57 AM |
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i think he means no handles at all... and use a remote/solenoid to open the door..
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 10:58 AM |
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ha.. there you go..
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 11:00 AM |
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Blake Hoggert got his Transporter approved without handles.
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 11:24 AM |
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dont see why they would be illegal.... but you all know the government
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 12:08 PM |
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You mean like this....
oasis has attached this image:
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[Edited on 10/5/2005 by Oasis]
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 12:13 PM |
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You are aloud to have them ALSONG as you have an EMERGANCY door release on the outside of the vehicle.
So in other words you have a button on the outside of the vehicle that allows you to open the doors other then the remote.
Though im pritty sure you HAVE to get a engineers cert. But to pass for an engineers you need that emergancy release on the outside of the vehicle.
Alot of work and prob not worth it unless you have the time of day and can physically see other cars with them to get an idea.
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 12:20 PM |
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I think he means like this 
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 12:36 PM |
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posted by FATBUG
You are aloud to have them ALSONG as you have an EMERGANCY door release on the outside of the vehicle.
So in other words you have a button on the outside of the vehicle that allows you to open the doors other then the remote.
Though im pritty sure you HAVE to get a engineers cert. But to pass for an engineers you need that emergancy release on the outside of the vehicle.
Alot of work and prob not worth it unless you have the time of day and can physically see other cars with them to get an idea.
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yeah if you were in a whack and they needed you out quick, how would they open da door from da outside?
might seem trivial but if my car was 'heaven forbid' on fire
i want someone to be able to open the door to get me or my family/dog/original log books out of the thing before it goes "im melting"
maybe thats why govt. dept has the rule
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 03:46 PM |
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It happened to a Hot Rod in Melbourne just over a year ago. Rod crashed, battery was dislodged, sparked, fuel line dislodged, fire. The solenoids on
the doors would not open and the chop top was too low for the driver and passenger to get out of any window openings. Well it was a sad day as you can
understand what the outcome was.
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 05:13 PM |
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There would be a similar ending if the doors were locked yeah.
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| posted on May 10th, 2005 at 06:55 PM |
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The problem was these rod doors had no way of being opened once the battery was disconnected. You may ask, then what did the owner do if the battery
went flat, well the battery was acessible from the outside.
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| posted on May 13th, 2005 at 10:58 AM |
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Personally i like shaved doors but when it comes to safty and if it was a car i was driving everyday i would not do it.
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| posted on May 13th, 2005 at 12:16 PM |
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As was said before, this is why we have design rules.
Would you let your child/mother/relative go in a car that if they had an accident there might not be a way to get them out quickly???
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| posted on May 24th, 2005 at 04:36 PM |
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What about keeping the latch on the inside and just getting rid of it on the outside?
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| posted on May 24th, 2005 at 05:09 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
What about keeping the latch on the inside and just getting rid of it on the outside?
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Yeah but what if the person inside is unconcious and the car is on fire.......
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| posted on May 24th, 2005 at 06:57 PM |
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What then if the person was unconcious and you couldnt get to them?
Mel
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| posted on May 24th, 2005 at 06:58 PM |
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lol I had the window open to this page and didnt refresh before posting :P
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| posted on May 24th, 2005 at 08:08 PM |
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Hey Mike, My car is white in my pic :P
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| posted on June 3rd, 2005 at 08:03 PM |
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I had shaved handles on a beetle in the UK some years back, only had the solenoid on the drivers side, passenger door still had the normal internal
handle. To operate the drivers door from outside was with a magnet via a hidden reed switch and from inside by a big button on the dash, the passenger
door you simply opened from inside. I understand the safety aspect but if I was in a burning vehicle and unconscious I would not be terribly upset if
someone smashed the window to get me out! Plus on a funnier aspect of it, once the car was outside and got completely buried in snow, at the time I
was concerned as to whether or not the solenoid would work but that ended up not being the problem as that worked fine what was the problem was that
the door was frozen shut and there wasn't a door handle to pull on!!!
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| posted on June 30th, 2005 at 10:14 PM |
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my mate recently got defected for having shaved doors on his mini truck,$250 fine and was made to put handles back on,they look sweet shaved but you
need to know how to dodge cops..this was in newcastle nsw by the way-isaac
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| posted on February 5th, 2006 at 04:35 PM |
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Question and comment
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Helbus
The problem was these rod doors had no way of being opened once the battery was disconnected. You may ask, then what did the owner do if the battery
went flat, well the battery was acessible from the outside.
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I would be sure that there are some pics of this vehicle around. Would there be a chance of viewing any?
The idea of ignoring the need for both an internal and external manual connection, usually a cable of sorts, to any door locking/opening mechanism is
both ludicrous and totally stupid. Every shop should refuse to do the job w/o using them and the driver/owner should be severely fined if discovered,
in any manner, without them.
I'm new here, first post and it already looks interesting.
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