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 FaT_BuG
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spraying beetle
how hard do is it to spray a car..coz ive got a spare garage and can do it in that.i want to get all the rust out of it and new pieces of metal put in
not bog then i wanna do a good paint job.to much work or give it ago???? eny ideas???
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 08:21 PM |
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a lot more difficult than it may seem...
go to
http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqpnt.htm
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 08:32 PM |
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awesome thx i will most probably need all the help i can get coz i wanna do it properly coz at the moment the paint job is very dodgy to say the least
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 09:34 PM |
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Where are you in Sydnet FaT_BuG?? 
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 10:12 PM |
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on the north shore
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 10:58 PM |
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14yo had some good advice, but use a high fill primer (cellulose base, then sand it smooth) for a really nice finish. Then, use a good paint to
produce the desired result and longevity.
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 11:01 PM |
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ok kool.... how much do u think a good step up would cost??
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| posted on September 12th, 2002 at 11:01 PM |
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step = set sorry
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| posted on September 14th, 2002 at 06:48 PM |
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I've gotten ok paint finishes with a $180 spraygun, but other people have said they look really good. Maybe I am too fussy.
For a top acrylic paint job, I use a $450 gun, and that is used only on the magazine/ show cars.
No I wont be able to spray anyones cars on here, as I am fully committed for a very long time to what I am doing now. However I am willing to give
advice and answer questions.
Peter
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| posted on September 14th, 2002 at 07:38 PM |
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ok well how long did it take u to paint ur car?
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| posted on September 15th, 2002 at 02:49 AM |
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Helbug, are you sure? You can be guaranteed of sunshine here, any time of the year.  (I'm afraid we can't do rain or cold, but we've got plenty of sun.) Guess I'm gonna have to use the Beaver
otherwise.
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| posted on September 16th, 2002 at 04:24 PM |
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Spraying
I have just finished repainting my 69 beetle (now baja bug). It was the first time that i've ever used a spray gun and compressor so I might be
able to offer some advise from my experience.
Firstly the preparation was very hard. I talked to lots of people about the best way to get the car back to bare metal, and most of the advise
suggested that paint stripper was the best. I suspect that these guys saw it as the best way to get a show car finish cos it was pretty hard to do.
It took several months of weekends to get the car stripped. Bead blasting would have been easier i think.
Anyway I also found that rust repairs are quite difficult to do, and that the metal burns easily when you try to weld patches in. If possible I think
it would be better to replace whole panels, or use the pre formed replacement panels if you have rust.
I also found lots of dents after stripping the paint. It took a lot of work to fill and sand them.
The fibrglass kit was also hard to strip and finish. Don't use harsh abrasives or scrapers on fibreglass, the scratches are hard to fill.
After that, the painting was pretty easy, although i'm a bit afraid to compound it cos i'm worried that the paint will be too thin.
All in all it looks pretty good though. I've jst got to put it all back together now...
Stephen
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| posted on September 16th, 2002 at 07:05 PM |
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Fatbug -
I spent approx 500 hrs paint prep and spray time on my own show car and about 50 hrs on HELBUS
70AutoStik -
I wish I was in sunny QLD, sick of the rain down here. Helbus is the handle. Helbug is a workshop/ beetle in Sydney I think.
Yellow Booger-
You definitely understand. It is mostly the preparation that takes the time. It doesnt matter how good you can paint, if the prep is no good, you just
end up with a shiny finish on a crap base.
There are some articles on paint and prep at http://www.ehholden.com.au in the
GARAGE TECH section. It may not be VW but the principles are the same.
Peter
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| posted on September 16th, 2002 at 09:30 PM |
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I wish I was in Sunny QLD too, instead of Outback of no-where! But it is definitely sunny here...
The advantage of being in an outback mining town is that, once I get it stripped down far enough, I should have no trouble getting it media blasted
(possibly for nix ) A friend with many years spraypainting and
blasting experience recommends against glass bead or sand blasting - the preferred medium is walnut shells, or there are several plastic media
choices. But, whatever is used, it's messy (my friend warned me to plan on new upholstery.) I agree that the easiest part is probably the
painting, but the various levels of success I've observed have me still thinking of getting a pro to do it (shame my mate's in Perth, maybe
I can coax him up for a "fishing trip."
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| posted on October 8th, 2002 at 07:11 PM |
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Be Careful!!
I have just had my '67 sprayed professionally. I just wanted to warn you. I had a "mate" who was a 'good' MIG welder who
said thay he would cut all the rust out of my car and replace it with metal (as with you, I didnt want bog anywhere near my car). Then when I went to
get it painted, I found out that all the welds had to be replaced cause he had warped the metal. Be careful so as you dont have the same trouble.
Good Luck Mate:thumb |
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| posted on October 8th, 2002 at 11:06 PM |
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I used to do a fair bit of backyard spraying when I was preparing speedway cars for sale and for racing. Each car I did stuff differently as it didn;t
rally matter what the quality was like as long as it was cheap and sections could be touched up easily is panels / doors etc needed replacing.
All the advice above is very good and I can't really add much more only to say:
Be cautious of welding as mentioned,
Sandblasting by amatuers will also easily warp panels,
95% muscle for the prep and 5% skill for the spray is the general ratio,
The primer is the surface, the skin is just the colour,
Lure a professional applicator to you garage with Grog, kegs, scantly clad pool parties and free pizza/videos if you haven't done some practice
before hand.
Like anything, It's easier the second time.
The Bronze.
I'm about to do an application of Galmet Hammer metal Gunmetal grey to my 71 Baja, The Dog-O-War when the purse strings unravel.
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| posted on October 17th, 2002 at 12:47 PM |
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I'd recommend stripping the car yourself to bare metal (with paint stripper) and paying a proffessional to do the rest. Ends up being cheaper if
you calculate the cost of hiring/buying the equipment to do it yourself. Stripping is easy to do even as a beginner, but spraying takes a bit of
experience. I'm in the process of doing it myself and I've stripped half the car in 1 weekend.
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