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 bajamick
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| posted on June 4th, 2007 at 10:09 PM |
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Who made the 7 piece manx kit?
I am having trouble with qld transport for my mod approval on my baja... It has been a baja for i dont know how long, i bought it like this.
It is a 7 piece manx kit (the one with the 2 raised bits on the bonnet)
They want:
Manufacturer of the kit
Who i bought the kit from
approval numbers for the fibreglass
can anyone help me with these? if you want pics of the kit give me your e-mail coz for some reason i cant post pics on here.
cheers.
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| posted on June 6th, 2007 at 10:14 PM |
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ring Custom Offroad. they do a million of them and know everything there is to know. they also blue plate them from what I understand.
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| posted on June 7th, 2007 at 06:21 AM |
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mate go over to buggy adventures theyll tell you
BETTER TO BE THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT:puke
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bajamick
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| posted on June 7th, 2007 at 08:10 PM |
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Thanx,
i think i got it sorted!
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| posted on June 7th, 2007 at 08:16 PM |
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I'd be interested to know as well, as I've got one of those kits.
Graham
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bajamick
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| posted on June 9th, 2007 at 07:05 PM |
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From what i have gathered, these numbers dont exist.
but the manufacturer of the kit was most likley a place called volksglass at springwood, QLD
and they were distributed by manx buggies when they were around, hence the name "manx kit"
Manx buggies imported the original kit from the states and it was called the "californian kit"
they just took moulds and re-named it. i have also been told that none of these companies will admit they know anything about the kit because of legal
mumbo jumbo!
I have come to the conclusion that QLD transport are useless! i am now going to register it as a beetle and take it up with my insurance company...
based on info i have got from others this is the way to go.
I don't know if any of the above info is correct as it gathered from many people and is all second hand info. But i do know that QLD transport are
useless.
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| posted on June 12th, 2007 at 10:03 PM |
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mine is registered as a cheetha coupe
with approval papers from transport dept
should try pineapple st transport at zillmere
anyone who says it's bad to put subaru motors in vw's.....
hasnt got a clue about smoooooooooth
terry
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| posted on June 13th, 2007 at 08:07 PM |
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When I bought my white baja it looks like it had the same kit as yours. I went and saw Ted at Volkswagen & Volvo Centre at Rocklea. I printed out some
photos and took them down and showed him. He said it was a kit that he used to sell and he stamped it and signed it and gave me a letter to say that
it was an approved kit registered to Manx Buggies. Give him a call and talk to him, he was pretty helpful. I have a blue one now and it almost looks
exactly the same as yours.
Steve
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bajamick
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| posted on June 14th, 2007 at 08:46 PM |
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Did he give you any numbers? coz when i spoke to the transport dept they said i need the numbers or the kit was not meant for road use... basically
no numbers no approval?
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| posted on June 15th, 2007 at 07:07 AM |
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Baja Wes put this on here a while ago:
Here's an extract from the current Queensland Transport mod code.
The new national mod code which is already in place in some states has the same clauses as below, but adds the following;
Where the modifier has quality management processes in place, testing of the components need only be done once to prove the general design.
Now Baja kits are non-structural, therefore you don't need to do the testing. The funny thing is the BS 2782 testing it calls for is outdated and
no-one does it anymore. Buggies have an exemption from this rules anyway;
http://www.offroadvw.net/buggyboyz/BulletinNumber34BeachBuggies.htm
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bajamick
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| posted on June 16th, 2007 at 07:28 AM |
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so what you're saying is i dont really need a mod approval or i do need one but all of the testing has already been done therefore they should know
what this mod is?
i have someone in the industry looking into it for me at the moment so i'll see what they have come up with and if nothing, i'll go see ted. did you
have to put your baja over the pits? if so was it a nightmare?
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| posted on June 16th, 2007 at 10:25 AM |
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keep us posted on this btw.
i'm interested too to see how the procedures go.
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| posted on July 5th, 2007 at 05:19 PM |
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Baja is complete and registered! as a beetle. didn't have time to let the transport dept muck me around any longer, thanx for all the advice though!
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| posted on August 9th, 2007 at 10:59 PM |
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Baja kits don't have and never did have any approval number, if someone in QLD TPT is telling you differently then get their name and number and post
it here and I will ring and have a chat to them as they are WRONG.
I have original approval papers for the following Baja Kits:
7 Piece Meyers Manx Baja Kit - Sold by Manx Buggies
7 Piece Sandblaser Kit - Sold by Custom Offroad
7 Piece Cheetah Baja Kit - Sold by Custom Offroad
If you do a search on here you will find exactly what you need to do to get a Baja registered, from memory you even posted in the thread about it.
If QLD TPT wish to argue with you on it then once again get their name and number and post it in here.
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| posted on June 3rd, 2010 at 05:16 PM |
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Sorry to dig up an old thread, but QT wants British Standard 2782 blah blah blah to complete my baja approval. What do I have to tell them?
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| posted on June 3rd, 2010 at 06:32 PM |
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Call custom veedub. they know all the legal mumbo jumbo.
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| posted on June 3rd, 2010 at 06:53 PM |
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Does anyone else know?
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| posted on June 11th, 2010 at 06:27 AM |
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Does anyone know or has done this before? Other than cvd.
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| posted on June 11th, 2010 at 08:28 PM |
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I understand your frustration. When I filled in the mod vehicle form (2 yrs ago) I just put down fitting of 7 pc cheetah baja kit as Brad stated.
After baja was ready,went for the inspection and they wanted baja kit fitting instructions which dont exist. Just showed a printout off net of man
bolting a front guard on and they said that was fine. Baja fitting instructions now on manx club site !. Dont give up, keep pushing on even know
talking to someone at QT who dosen't know what the hell the rules are will drive you to drink!!
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| posted on June 12th, 2010 at 09:36 AM |
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If you read the quoted post from me above, you will see testing isn't required for a Baja as the fiberglass isn't structural.
If you also read the link to the information bulletin on my website (Queensland Transport bulletin 34) you'll see all the popular makes of buggies
are exempt from fiberglass testing.
The testing the code calls for is also not performed by anyone in Australia as it is old and superseded.
And if you talk to CVD they will likely be able to supply you with these fitting instructions;
http://www.manxclub.org/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=25
And yes, Queensland Transport is shocking for it's ability to give you different answers on different days or from different people.
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| posted on June 16th, 2010 at 06:52 PM |
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Thanks all.
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| posted on June 18th, 2010 at 03:07 PM |
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After a 20min argument with Queensland Transport they still insist that I need to get independent testing. Nothing I said would change their mind. I
supplied fitting instructions from CVD, explained it was still a full bodied beetle (not manx), not structural. But they still need destructive
testing results on a sample piece.
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Baja Wes
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| posted on June 18th, 2010 at 05:08 PM |
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Go to a different Queensland Transport office. They are clearly retarded. Did you point out that their own bulletin (number 34) excludes full
fiberglass dune buggies from testing?
In my last ICV report (which was approved) I stated;
| Quote: | 2.5 Fibreglass
The fibreglass is not structural (refer Section 3.1 - Structural Design), and is only there to provide weather protection to the occupants, and to
cover the wheels. Because of this and the fact it is a beach buggy, no fibreglass structural testing was required or has been performed (also see
Section 3.1 - Structural Design for testing exemptions applying to beach buggies). The fibreglass is greater than 3.5mm thick and complies with clause
5.1.1 of Section LH.
3.1 Structural Design
The Structural Design of this vehicle body is simplified by the lack of doors, and the fact the body itself is not the structural member. The vehicle
has been designed such that the roll cage provides all the structural performance usually provided by the body. Steering columns, seats, seat belt
anchorages and all other ancillaries are mounted from the roll cage or vehicle chassis.
The body is a fibreglass design mounted on a Volkswagen type 1 chassis, similar to the classic beach buggies of the 70’s which were pioneered by
Bruce Meyers in the USA. This concept has proven itself to be structurally sound over the last 30+ years. This was recognised by Queensland Transport
in Vehicle Inspectors Bulletin number 34 – May 2000, which stated beach buggies are exempt from beaming and torsional tests and fibreglass testing.
Although this model of beach buggy is not specifically mentioned, the vehicle is structurally very similar to a Meyers Manx and therefore has also
been exempt from these tests.
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I also had some more stuff that isn't particularly relevant
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| posted on June 18th, 2010 at 09:16 PM |
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This is the Vehicle Standards and Regulations Office. He quoted some beach buggy regulations but I said it was still a full bodied beetle and chassis,
aside from the Baja kit. He consulted their 'engineer' and still insisted I need the tests.
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| posted on June 18th, 2010 at 10:10 PM |
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Tell them to look at their own Queensland Transport Vehicle Inspectors Bulletin number 34 – May 2000, and they will see even full bodies beach
buggy's as exempt (as per the links above) from the test. Therefore a Baja is obviously exempt.
| Quote: | Queensland
Transport Vehicle Inspectors Bulletin number 34
though LH 5 and 6 requires beaming and torsional testing the majority of these vehicles are constructed to designs approved many years ago and have
been shown to meet requirements, therefore, beaming and torsion tests and fibreglass testing is NOT required, provided they are
constructed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions, using a Volkswagen chassis and the following makes of beach buggy bodies,.
- Meyers Manx
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| posted on June 19th, 2010 at 05:16 PM |
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And that hasn't changed since 2000? I've given CVD a call and they're going to get back to me.
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| posted on December 13th, 2010 at 01:53 AM |
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If you are still having issues then please let me know who you have been talking to in QLD Tpt and I will happily ring them and have a little chat
with them on your behalf.
It is registered with QLD Tpt as a 7 Piece Meyers Manx Baja Kit .
Earliest Approval Number I have on file is
Inspector Auth Number - #65
Ref No LC23/133
Dated 13 Feb 1994
Approval to Fit Meyers Manx Baja Kit
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F*^K ME!
These guys are useless... second request for Modification rejected, because I need BS 2782 Part III methods 320E and 335A.
I quoted baja wes's testing excemptions applying to beach buggies, and after a discussion over the phone they said only if its a manx, kalita,
j&s etc but not for Cheetah Baja Kit as it wasn't in the list.
They said i had to go to a NATA testing, with a 100x100 section and perform destructive testing.
Why do i need testing? well they do rekon its structural, despite using the original vw steel body, they are concerned about the front bonnet section
(the front crash zone) to see how it peforms in the path of a pedestrian. Apparently there are new vehicle/later model standards that it now must
comply to. (AS standards for front impact for pedestrians). I should have quoted it as a manx baja kit lol. But they said, look you can state it as
that and get it through, but you must have proof of it being such (compliance plate, manufacturers stamp etc.)
I think i know what kit i got, its a John Sherman's Sand Piper, he ain't got the paper work for em' any more... looks like i must drive round town
illegally. Bullshit hey, will be shaking at the knee's everytime a cops behind me or there's a vehicle inspection bay laid out at the side of the
road. 
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
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New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta! |
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