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| posted on April 26th, 2009 at 02:25 AM |
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CB for sale on Ebay
As the title says.
http://cars2.ebay.com.au/Volkswagen-Country-Buggy-Rare-Item_W0QQcmdZViewItemQ...
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| posted on April 26th, 2009 at 05:09 AM |
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Looks like KO 496 to me.
http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/album534
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| posted on April 26th, 2009 at 06:24 AM |
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he bought it of us 8 weeks ago for 3,000,
now flipping it for quik buck.
only say this as we DO NOT want to be assocated with him, & as we owned this CB for few years & live in the ballarat district people could
easily get us confused.
cheers.
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| posted on April 30th, 2009 at 08:41 PM |
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Sold
30-Apr-09 20:37:20 AEST
4,150.00 AUD = 3,043.70 USD
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cb john
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| posted on April 30th, 2009 at 08:47 PM |
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CB policeman is doing his job perfectly...
Good on you Steve
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| posted on April 30th, 2009 at 09:20 PM |
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looks like his cousin was pushing up the bids!
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ztnoo
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| posted on May 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 PM |
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Officer Steve here..........
Something odd is going on. This CB is listed on eBay again by a new seller......supposedly.
At least there's a different user name given.
it's a five day listing ending May 07, 2009.
Starting bid $4,000 AUD.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300312086236&ssPag...
The previous ad,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&am...
stated it was sold Apr 30, 200903:37:20 AM PDT
Funny thing is, the ad copy is exactly the same, including the same phone number!
A few more pics have been thrown in.....that's the only difference I note other than the user name.
There's no way I know of for eBay to actually know if money and title have been exchanged.
I'd be surprised if that's the case.
I speculate there's some private jockeying going on here.
Maybe to keep increasing the bidding and arriving at a maxed out sale price.
Again, no way to prove that I know of........
Interesting and intriguing.
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Steve
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| posted on May 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 PM |
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also notice the winning bidder of the first auction had a feedback rating of 8 and current seller has a feedback of....yup 8
coincedence? i think not
as ponybeetle said hes just out to make a quick buck of it even if it means playing dirty by pushing up the bids himself
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| posted on May 3rd, 2009 at 07:16 AM |
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notice the red flash trim beetle in the background in one of the pics in first listing?, it was sold recently by this same seller.
check feedback left for this seller, by previous listed seller...
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| posted on May 3rd, 2009 at 03:36 PM |
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Dig a little deeper and you will find it's a common practice for him.
he had a VW Beetle"Rare" 68 Model-Disc Brake-Swingaxle Rear on ebay which sold to a retroresto67
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130291676709
It's on ebay now. for sale by him again
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130303904165&ssPag...
So it looks like there are more then just the 2 accounts
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| posted on May 3rd, 2009 at 09:03 PM |
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I would like to amend my investigation.
My first assertion was incorrect.
All the pictures are the same....I was in error pointing out new pics had been added to the second ad.
Caulk it up to being a rookie too quick to make comparisons. Duh
Also, I'd like to state I'm all for any seller (whether the sale object is listed on eBay or not) getting as high a price for what they are
attempting to peddle as they can. No harm in that......as that's the way capitalism works. I think everyone kind of expects that to happen.
Having stated that, I'm also supportive of any potential buyer trying to keep a sale price at a low level and in being hesitant in bidding the sale
price upward. All of us are looking for a good deal......and I think sellers know that.
What has to occur is a meeting of the minds in order to conclude a deal/sale.
I think most people want that to happen in a fair and balanced way.
eBay has created a wonderful marketplace in which anyone can participate as a buyer or seller. It has given us a worldwide tool to find very rare,
very odd, even common everyday objects, which none of us would have had easy access to a decade ago. Along with this incomparable opportunity to shop
and search until you drop, has come more undesirable aspects......misrepresentation of products, funny business with PayPal, non payment for goods
purchased, and non delivery of paid for items. eBay reflects what goes on day by day in our world. Some good, some not so good.
What this appears to be, observed from afar, is a ruse, a deception to build value based on a previous "sale".
I beleive most readers here would conclude there is no reason this vehicle would suddenly, and magically, increase in value by 25% (or more) literally
overnight.
It's likely that no "sale" ever occurred, and that this is part of a crafted plan to simply maximize return through the use of an internet sales
tool.
One of the great things about the internet and AVD and this forum n particular is that it provides readers with information to help them make
judgments about all manner of things. I don't think anyone begrudges anyone maximizing return on what others are attempting to sell, as long as it is
done in a reasonable, fair, and honest way.
I don't know that there are any legal problems with what appears to have occurred. eBay wouldn't likely care for the use of their site for such
activities, especially if all this sleight of hand was created by one individual, not multiple sellers. But I'm sure most readers and potential
buyers would agree there are some moral and ethical questions raised by this deceptive tactic of creating the illusion this particular vehicle
suddenly is much more valuable than it was a few weeks or months ago, when it is in fact the same unchanged and unimproved product sold previously for
$3,000 AUD.
The rule which should always apply in these things is of course caveat emptor............buyer beware.
Thanks to this forum, we all have the opportunity to have more information and background to help make us more informed potential buyers.
Unfortunately, the general public outside of this sphere of acquaintance may not be so lucky.
Regards,
Steve
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| posted on May 4th, 2009 at 09:18 PM |
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It is Snorkel or the US Gumshoe??????
I think you are on the money Steve.
Interesting to see if there is a bid this time around and from where it might appear from.
Personally , I dont see this as a A$4K vehicle with some of the good stuff missing.
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| posted on May 7th, 2009 at 09:40 PM |
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Well, remarkably....or maybe not.....there were no bidders, and as a result no "sale".
Huummm.....
That can happen from time to time if one runs out of user names to be able to post ads...............oh .......and bid, too.
Update 11:15 EST (US): Looks like the world is going to have another shot at this one......
Listed again:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300313386320&ssPag...
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| posted on May 9th, 2009 at 12:15 AM |
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so how many names is that?
oldbird49
emjnl
retroresto67
Any more?
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| posted on May 12th, 2009 at 05:03 AM |
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Unfortunately, shill bidding is very prominent on ebay. It is against ebay's rules, but they turn a blind eye because they make money from all
transactions whether they are legitimate or not.
Shill bidding is also a way to prevent a sale for a price that the seller considers too low without the expense of setting a reserve. The shill bids
it up at the end, wins the auction, and then *surprise* doesn't complete the transaction. This fellow apparently wants to make at least $1000 on his
flip of this vehicle.
If a seller is shady about his auction practices, I wouldn't expect him to be more honest in finalizing the transaction. The buyer is likely to end
up minus his money without a vehicle to show for it.
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| posted on May 12th, 2009 at 08:13 AM |
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GeorgeL,
Very well stated.
I believe most readers here recognize this scam for what it is.
Anyone besides ponybettle know this seller and his history selling VWs???
I believe it would be a service to the CB community in particular, and VW owners generally to be forthcoming about this seller.....as well as others
who utilize this modus operandi.
In 12h 13m 41s we'll know if there are any gullible fish to hook.....or maybe another pseudo buyer will suddenly appear.
It would appear by market reaction, it's still a $3,000 AUD CB.
Regards,
Steve
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| posted on May 12th, 2009 at 08:42 PM |
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No bids.
No sale.
Will we see this one listed again?
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| posted on May 24th, 2009 at 10:40 PM |
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Actually I've met the guy at Nationals this morning....he doesn't know much, he's in for some extra buck...
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