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 posted on June 25th, 2003 at 02:12 AM |
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swapping beetle chassis- questions???
just curious,
is there much involved if u want to swap the floorpans of a beetle?
i hav an Oval on original pans with IRS and ball joint welded in.
im just curious as to wat it would take to get another oval chassis and put my Oval body onto it.
what would be involved with this? as much info as possible is greatly appreciated...
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| posted on June 25th, 2003 at 10:01 AM |
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While I dont see the point (unless you are trying to return the oval to original), what is basically involved is as follows (and people, please
correct what I miss);
Disconnect fuel line from tank and drain.
Remove steering column (disconnect at box end)
Disconnect all engine wiring
Unbolt seatbelts from either floor or body
Remove all body to pan bolts (twenty something of them I think)
Get two strong mates and lift the body off.
Theres not alot to it unless the body to pan bolts are rusted solid - which will be quite likely if your oval had rust in the heater channel / front
quarter panel areas. In these cases, what commonly happens is that you shear half of the bolts before they come out, so although you can get the body
off, you then have to drill and tap the old bolts out before you can remount it.
Is there a problem with the current chassis or is this a rhetorical question ?
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| posted on June 27th, 2003 at 08:16 PM |
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You forgot about modifing the rear body to pan mount (above the rear axle area)
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| posted on June 27th, 2003 at 11:04 PM |
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You don't need to modify the "above rear axle area " mounts as you are fitting an original oval pan again. The pan you are currently
using will have the same mounts, if it is a modified oval pan. ( balljoint and IRS)
Are you sure it is a modified oval pan, seems a lot of trouble for someone to convert to IRS and balljoint ???
Would have been easier converting a balljoint pan to IRS, in which case the rear mounting on your oval shell would have been modified !
What is the chassis number?
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| posted on June 29th, 2003 at 12:29 PM |
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yeah it is a oval pan, the original pan for the body, modified by hellbug. the chssis numbers r correct for its year and i spoke exstensively to the
previous owners who did the conversion.
theres nothing wrong with the current chassis, im just finding out wat would be involved to return the oval to stock.
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| posted on June 29th, 2003 at 12:30 PM |
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my post numbers arent going up
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| posted on June 29th, 2003 at 08:51 PM |
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Having done numerous body removals and trial fits and installations on pans recently (between mine and my mates body off projects), I know that
leaving the doors, bonnets, glass and decklid in place will make it bloody heavy to lift off. 4 people would be fine, 3 okay. If the above items are
off, 2 would be heaps.
Also if you leave the engine in whoever has to lift the backend up will have to lift it high over the fanshroud.
Just a couple of tips I have found out the hard way! Otherwise it is pretty easy.
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| posted on June 29th, 2003 at 10:28 PM |
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so how do i actually re attach the body then? do i weld?
where r the join that i would hav to remove b4 i seperated the body and chassis?
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 posted on June 29th, 2003 at 10:57 PM |
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If you look in any of the Scientific Publications Workshop Manuals on Beetles, you'll find on the first page of 'Body' section,
'how to remove the body'. It explains exactly how to do it.
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| posted on June 30th, 2003 at 07:50 AM |
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No don't weld the body back to the pan. Use the same bolts you would have undone to get the body off the other pan (if they are still in good
nic). Should be two bolts in the front bonnet that go into the front beam, at least 6 maybe 8 under the rear seat, two on the rear shock towers, four
under the pan at the front near the front wheels and then a heap along each edge of the underside of pan.
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| posted on June 30th, 2003 at 12:05 PM |
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This may be a stupid thing to say, but then maybe not, Is the vehicle registered?
If so, by changing the floor you are effectively changing cars, so you will need to reregister it(Or maybe Not)
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 12:54 PM |
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Good point. If your in NSW you will need to re register it. Assuming Newcastle hasn't moved you will have to do this. Unless of course you buy an
already registered chassis. Thats what I would love to do. Junk my 66 body and get my oval body onto it so I can then at least drive it around. The
only thing about putting an earlier body on a later chassis is that you have to comply with the rules for that year chassis. If it had blinkers on the
front so must yours. If it had reverse lights so must your. Oh the fun of it all.
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 04:16 PM |
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I've got a really good 58 floorpan for sale. No rust at all (well last time I checked anyway). I'll sell it for $220. Please someone buy the
damn thing.....
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 09:38 PM |
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ive been thru the whole re registering thing. but i wouldnt want it on a chassis other than late 50s anyway.
wes, does $220 include labour to fit it?
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