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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 05:57 PM |
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Can you put a 1300 front apron on a L BUG
Hi everone , Could you put a 1300 front apron on a l bug and cut just infront of the windscreen of the l bug to fit the longer 1300 bonnet. for the
rest of this year im going to be thinking of diifferent ways i could go with my project bug that will start hope fully next year to be finished in
time to get my licence. So here is what i want and am considering different options to make it happen.
I want to have 1300 gaurds at the front.
IRS Rear suspension.
L Bug rear gaurds.
L bug dash ( which meens i need an l bug)
But i dont liike the shorter bonnet and te superbug apron.
Lol im a bit fussy ar'nt I.
All these are not concrete ideas and i dont NEED everything to be this way but im just trying to find out the best model beetle to go with.
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 06:07 PM |
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Because of the strut front end, the shape of the bonnet, guards, the panels the guards bolt to, and the apron are all differently curved. None of them
are interchangeable. The actual curve of the bonnet opening is wider and more rounded, as is the bonnet, and where the guards bolt on. Sorry, but a
Super front is a Super front.
You may prefer a 1302. Volkswagen S. They are a Super model. They have an older look with the Super mechanicals like IRS and strut front end. L Bug
rear guards will go straight on. They have old style flat windscreen and dash. Someone else will fill you in on the other models with padded or later
dashes.
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 06:17 PM |
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no wrong shape
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 06:24 PM |
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Mate, I dont like the bonnet much either. but the way I see it is this.....
- you get a 68-70 1300 or 1500 with the beam front end and swing axle rear, get it lowered and shove L bug rear gaurds on and get a camber compensator
so it feels better in the rear.
- get an L bug with the mcpherson strut front and IRS rear, which feels more like a modern car, has a better turning circle. Can chose between flat or
curved screen.
Id say, that if your not looking to spend alot, there is no point trying to change front aprons and the bonnet, its a big task.
Not to burst any bubbles, just wondering what your thoughts are on orginality.... (ie, do you rather a stock looking car or something that is away
from its original form - lots of fibreglass..)
If I was in your position.... id do alot of searching for a bug you really like, save lots of cash and buy something. rather than spending your money
on body modifications, try and find something really solid (no major dings or rust) and spend your money on good brake upgrades, suspension upgrades
and nice wheels.
In saying all this, everyone has their own tastes.
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 06:28 PM |
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you need to start the impossible hunt for a 74 on south african bug
thats what they are
Lbug dash and windscreen with a standard torsion bar front end and gaurds
bit of a factory abortion but dont tell dubb61 i said that 
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 06:37 PM |
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^ what are the down falls of those SA bugs?? Are they IRS???
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 07:02 PM |
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nah they got all 6 volt suspension
link pin front, swing axle rear and wide 5 drum brakes all round
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 07:07 PM |
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sounds terrible...
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 07:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by colonel mustard
sounds terrible...
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What's so terrible about link-pins,swing-axles & drum-brakes?
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 07:39 PM |
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nothing
he's just spoilt with discs, struts and IRS
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 07:42 PM |
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anything is possible with alcohol, gas axe and a welder..
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 07:59 PM |
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unfortunately thats been proven in nearly 800 pages of bastards and abortions on thesamba
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 08:05 PM |
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Thanks guys for the quick replys. In regards to colernal mustards question, I dont mind a bit of fiberglass here and there and i love heavyily modded
bugs but not to many mods. I think i will be going with an l bug then. i want to customise the l bug dash if i get an l bug. like this one in the
photo.
Thanks guys.
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 08:06 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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nothing
he's just spoilt with discs, struts and IRS
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well.. yes I am.... but what is wrong with it, is its a late 70's car running 60's gear.... thats a bit silly.....
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 08:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by DylanTheDubber
i love heavyily modded bugs but not to many mods.[/img]
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Heavily modded means to many modifications for most people!
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 09:26 PM |
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Could say swapping elephant feet taillights of a >73 is silly
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 09:29 PM |
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Could say swapping elephant feet taillights of a >73 is silly
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I don't understand. Do you mean "off"???
Do you mean you could put elephant feet lights on an earlier bug???
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 09:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
nothing
he's just spoilt with discs, struts and IRS
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well.. yes I am.... but what is wrong with it, is its a late 70's car running 60's gear.... thats a bit silly.....
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south africas a third world country
vehicle safety clearly wasnt parramount there, so they didnt update with model changes like most other countries
hell in 1975 you could still buy a brand new splitty that looked like our mid 60s splittys
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 09:39 PM |
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Thankyou for picking up on my spelling error 
I guess all that posting really did make you wise
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 09:42 PM |
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It's just the internet.
Anyway, I still don't know what you meant by that post...
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by DylanTheDubber
Hi everone , Could you put a 1300 front apron on a l bug and cut just infront of the windscreen of the l bug to fit the longer 1300 bonnet. for the
rest of this year im going to be thinking of diifferent ways i could go with my project bug that will start hope fully next year to be finished in
time to get my licence. So here is what i want and am considering different options to make it happen.
No...No..No..
I want to have 1300 gaurds at the front. Early or Late??
IRS Rear suspension.???
L Bug rear gaurds. L tail lamps on any guards.
L bug dash ( which meens i need an l bug) YIKES
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Dylan,
You don't really want an "L" or 1303S Super....
only good thing they had was the IRS rear end... IMHO
My 68 automatic beetle also has IRS rear end...
but it also has the tail lamps I like... amber red clear
I have a 1976 engine lid with all the vents..
Now, a 1300 beetle was also made in the 70's..
it had the vertical headlamps like an "L" beetle..
Bumper bar was late model... so thats not what you want
but You can of course have an "L" Bug with fibre glass front guards with sloping Porsche headlamps...
these may still be available??? and at a cost...$$$
it would be much easier to buy a 1968> NON Super beetle and bolt on the early type of guards you want..
and early front bumpers too if you like them...
You can make a beetle Your individual creation..
any tail lamps you want... rear guards are very similar.
I built My beetle to what i wanted in a beetle...
Now I have it... lol
cheers
LEE
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It will be an eye opener for you Dylan when you see the South Africian 1303 beetle....
elephants feet tail lamps... but they don't fit into the rear guards like L beetles here.. weird...
torsion bar front suspension, swing rear axles, 5 stud wheels.. Drum brakes...
basically a 1962 beetle chassis with a "sort of" L beetle body....
its metallic green...
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| posted on August 12th, 2009 at 11:17 PM |
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Yarpy body on an IRS/BJ or '68 Auto pan sounds like a good thing...
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on August 13th, 2009 at 07:13 AM |
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Yes , i Saw them in one of the VWMA issues not long back. But I would rather a povo pack beetle but don't want it to be known as povo pack. But Realy
thats the beetle look i like because it's got the torsion bar front with the 1300 and 1500 front cut of the body like bonnet apron so on. And (I
think) it has irs suspension. And i guess i would have to do lots of ugrades , say d and discs all round , upgrade the torsion bar suspension with all
nothathane bushings or something like that. And not to mension the 1300 motor which i would'nt be using i would get a 1600 beetle motor and use it
untill i have a couple of grand to build my own performance motor thats about a 1915cc(1916cc) or bigger but would'nt mind an 1835cc or there abouts
so long as it has plenty of take of in it.
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| posted on August 13th, 2009 at 07:19 AM |
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Lee , Also i do like the look of yours and like the bulge rear apron. Also the intierior looks good too with the customised dash for those extra
guages. Looks great and i like it but all i would have to do to want it for myself is put a manual gear box in it and put l bug rear gaurds. I Do see
what you said about the different elephants feet, i've wounded why they were like that.
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