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 dethbug
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 07:02 PM |
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any advice
hey guys
i have a 74' bug sitting over at my dads its pretty much stock. besides a bigger engine not sure what size its twin carbie. I cant get to it right
now so i cant provide much detail on it. pretty much the engine has a fair bit of poke but the gear box seems way to short. cant go much past 90kph
without wringing it neck. so i was wondering what would be the best remedy for this. also it hasnt got much rubber on the ground. I'm not sure about
what the front and rear end set up is ill find out when i can have a look at it in a couple of days.
So basically im new to modded a bug and just wanted some advice on some first up mods. i mostly would like it to handle really well and then work on
it from there
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 08:48 PM |
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Before spending $ on mods sort out the problems first. It should do almost double 90kph straight stock. I don't think it has anything to do with the
gear box. Clean the carb, replace points ,plugs and leads, set the valves and carb and time it correctly. For twin carbs you will have to sync them
up. Then see how it runs. Check for vacuum leaks. Replace fuel and brake lines, brake pads and shoes. Inspect exhaust for leaks. Check all engine tins
are in place and sealed. Leaking oil? .
That list should put a dent in your bank account already. Let us know how you go.
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:01 PM |
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74 L Beetles have strut front end and IRS rear.
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:12 PM |
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thanks heaps for the help
the engines only gone in recently and runs well, but im not all that savvy so ill start sorting through that list
cheers again
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:16 PM |
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so are all 74 bug's L?
sorry for the noobish question
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:23 PM |
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no there are standards as well which were 1500 swing axles with beam front end.
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:30 PM |
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i think that might be what i have.
the turning circle is fine when you turn left and then turning right runs a whole lot wider.
So im guessing its poverty pack
maybe not worth doing much to
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:32 PM |
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how big a job is it to change it to strut front end and IRS.
I think the carbies may be Kadrons just judging by what they look like and I'm guessing there is no easy way to find out how big the engine is.
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 12:50 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by dethbug
how big a job is it to change it to strut front end and IRS.
I think the carbies may be Kadrons just judging by what they look like and I'm guessing there is no easy way to find out how big the engine is.
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The stamping on the engine should be a reliable way to identify its original size. Whats the code? Its near the bottom of the generator stand where
it says 1432. It should start with an A.
Forget changing a beam front end to struts. Just not a practical mod. Beam fronts are cool, they go down heaps lower than strut fronts.
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 12:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by dethbug
i think that might be what i have.
the turning circle is fine when you turn left and then turning right runs a whole lot wider.
So im guessing its poverty pack
maybe not worth doing much to
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No no no. Every Beetle is worth saving
As long as the cancer hasn't got to far into it.
A standard is a very cool beetle to own.
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 01:19 PM |
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haha dont worry i wont ditch it. It's near completely rust free.
i have a 73' L bug at home to but its a basher, so i dont no how good the front end is in it (it has been jumped...and jumped into dams).
im not to worried about how low i can get it. I'd really love it to just handle like a go-kart.
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 01:22 PM |
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also i have two brothers one with a BMW E30 323i and the other with an E21 118i. and i just wanna be able to keep up with them (and of course look
cooler) although the E30 is nice. hahaha
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 01:23 PM |
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i agree, every beetle IS worth saving. I don't believe in poverty packs. there is nothing wrong with swing axle beetles. You can perform mods to make
it handle better if the rear isn't to your liking (ie, camber compensator and engine brace)
There is nothing wrong with beam front ends. Some people find these 1500 beetles more desirable than L or S bugs. one noteable thing is the front.
Does it have a pointy nose? does it have a flat or curved screen. Maybe people find the pointier nose beetles more appealing.
You should be able to go above 90km's easily. Alien8's list is a good starting point. another is, what size tyres/wheels are on there.... if they
are different to standard your speedo may be reading very wrong, or.... not being harsh or anything, but are you sure its a KMH gauge?
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 01:29 PM |
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flat windscreen ill have to check the nose when i go to my dads.
It's cool you can be harsh. I honestly cant remember what gauge it is. but the 90kph was driving in traffic so everyone was doing legal limit (90) or
mostly likely a bit more and the beetle was not liking it
Oh and the wheels and tires are standard everything is except a shitty toyota radio thats broken and the engine
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 08:53 PM |
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Sounds like a '74 1300 ,but even then it should go reasonably well,a tune will most likely fix it. The beam axle is in my opinion preferable to the
strut unit.
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 09:10 PM |
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yeah well it was a 1300 until that engine blew and now its got a new engine a mate gave us with dual carbs and a whole lot more power. the thing is
its not the engine struggling to reach higher speeds it me not pushing it any further so it doesnt blow up
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 05:14 PM |
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Yeah man 90kph should be no worries. My stocker with extractors will cruise quite nicely at 100 and on the weekend it was sitting on 130-140 with no
worries for a good 5-10 minutes. Easiest way to tell if it is strut or beam is to pop the bonnet and take a look. If it has strut mounts on the left
and right then it is strut and if it doesnt, it isnt. I have mine handling really nice at the moment with thinner front golf struts and a porsche 944
rear end dropped pretty low. It corners flat. My dad did some build details on it here http://clubvw.org.au/david_carter1.htm . Doesn't have anything on the suspension but i will see if he put anything up
build wise on here
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 05:30 PM |
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cool cheers dave yeah im certain that it isnt a strut bug which is a bummer but ohwell I might hunt around for another car. flat cornering is my goal
id love to get a setup like yours even with a stock engine and once it handles like a go-kart beef up the engine a little. by the way dave your bug is
amazing im in love with the german look
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 05:39 PM |
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i have a 73L bug thats a basher might be able to save it or would i be better off just buying another L beetle
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:06 PM |
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Well if your planning on replacing the suspension anyway then bent stuff isnt really an issue on the basher. As long as the strut mounts aren't
rooted and the body is straight. Yeah im a big fan of the german look and what you said is basically my plan. I have a 1776 in the garage waiting to
be assembled that will probs go in in the next couple of weeks. But yeah once you get the suspension right in bugs, my preference being strut, they
feel exactly like a go cart. I love mine 
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:18 PM |
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the late 1300 swingers were geared pretty badly
my yellow one with a 1600 fitted seemed to cruise at 110 ok, i wasnt game to go any faster for fear of falling through the floor but joshs 74 1300 bug
with WRX engine he brought to sawtell was doing 4500rpm at 110....go figure
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:23 PM |
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Yeh you tend to go insane sitting at 110 for a while from the noise 
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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but joshs 74 1300 bug with WRX engine he brought to sawtell was doing 4500rpm at 110....go figure
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i'd be getting a new tacho or speedo if that was the case.....doesn't sound right at all
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:30 PM |
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hahaha yeah noise can be bad also the car vibrates sitting at 60 sort of pulses hahaha
the body of the basher strut bug is rooted it be jumped hammer repairs for pointy bit and has been swimming once or twice its actually a 2nd basher
and still runs
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:30 PM |
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Yeh you tend to go insane sitting at 110 for a while from the noise
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you aint heard nothing yet
just wait till those webers and sidewinder are disturbing the peace
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 06:32 PM |
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is that part of the reason behind the big sound system joel?
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 07:17 PM |
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My stock 71, 1.6 does 90kmh fine, its a bit noisy but i dont have very much sound deadening in my parcel shelf. My top speed is 140 down a prretty
steep hill but ive hit 120 on sorta flat uphill road.
But it also feels like i need a fifth gear. It just seems like there is more potential for the engine.
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 07:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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is that part of the reason behind the big sound system joel?
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lol nah, i used to work in car audio and compete in dB drags.
these days im too deaf from it and busy listening to all the mechanical death rattles
Josh from memory yours is a 1300 as well which has the low gearing
5th gear conversions are only for uber big engines
stock to mild just dont have the torque to pull and also they tend to overheat as theyre not spinning at the revs the cooling systems designed for and
increased load
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 08:10 PM |
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so what should i be doing to remedy this next time i get in the beetle ill give a decent kick but ive done that before an i see the car exploded
before it does much faster than 95ish
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