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 ashbaxter
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| posted on January 31st, 2011 at 08:44 AM |
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I started this post for some advice and opinions and so far it confirms what I was thinking, keep going and finish what I have started.
The replies are much appreciated although some a bit off topic in regards to my purchase which was not my intent.
Would you agree that rust repairs aside, staying with the flares and scoops is the way to go as trying to remove them would result in replacing just
about every panel anyway.
Obviously not one for the purists out there but it would be unique wouldn't it? I haven't seen another like it.
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| posted on January 31st, 2011 at 09:03 AM |
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yes ash, stay with the flares and scoops otherwise you will have a huge job on your hands in my opinion and you would have been better off buying an
original then, some hate the flares,some love them, at the end of the day its what you want not others,if you keep it small and put new sills in then
with a bit of labour you can have it back on the road a lot sooner,just my opinion.
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| posted on January 31st, 2011 at 04:12 PM |
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agree with ya Steve, not many custom ghias out there and done right they look great as they have excellent lines to start with. Ash, you said you
bought the Ghia for its modified looks so stay with what your gut tells you, nice flares, scoop that leads somewhere, (not just a hole in the side)
and some sick wheels and you'll stand out from the crowd.... go for it I say.
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| posted on January 31st, 2011 at 05:07 PM |
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Stick with what you want mate.
If ya bought it for the flares,great. Its not my cup of tea,but thats just my opinion.
My custom Ghia thats for sale now appeals to those who are'nt that hung up on OG Ghia's.It looks standard,but is missing some minor chrome trim bits
etc
Thats cool,each to their own
What I will say,is that you have a big job ahead,and bodywork can cost a mint to get right.
I doubt it will be a cheap and easy fix too
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| posted on January 31st, 2011 at 05:39 PM |
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mate... rough to see this. there are many vw enthusiasts on the central coast and i am sure you will find support, info and assistance. good luck with
it. there are many of us that have had this kind of experience at some stage too.
always amazed that there are so many experienced dubbers in this world, with many cars, or past cars and knowledge and first hand dealings, but still
some claim they can not see the underlying condition of some cars.
Simply Cruzin'...
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| posted on February 1st, 2011 at 10:40 PM |
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Poor ash - you got ripped there mate - buy another karman ghia and use it as a sacrifical car - you best learn how to weld - it isnt that hard you
could learn it in 2 - 3 hours - tack welding and grinding and patience will see a lengthy result here.
VW Steve - - best laid plans of BOG and paper WTF ??????
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| posted on February 2nd, 2011 at 07:03 AM |
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tin tin, the bodywork was not done by me, i bought the car as it was years ago and drove it for a few years as is, the previous owner organised the
bodywork so if someone wants to bag them then go for it but most panel shops will only do what someone instructs them to do, from memory the name of
the panel shop was in amongst all the reciepts supplied with the car so please keep the smart remarks to yourself if you dont know the story, i
pointed out there was fibreglass in the spare wheel well so i was honest with the condition of the car before sale, i did not put a grinder into it so
who was to know what someone did to the sills beforehand.This is just typical for a kg, nearly all of the kgs on the road would have bog in them, it
all depends on what someone has done to it previously, these cars are not new anymore and are prone to rust.Good luck finding a kg in mint condition
for a low price.
its people who dont know anything about these cars like l469 which make this situation worse than it is, its a typical sill replacement on a kg job,
plain and fairly simple if someone knows how to weld, otherwise pay a restorer to weld them in and ash may be able to finnish it off himself after
that, i personally have restored a few of these and a lot wosre than this, i once restored 1 which was in 3 separate pieces after i put a grinder on
to it.
I hope none of you are planning on buying a 356 porsche 1 day as that is a whole new kettle of fish again!
If restoring a karmann ghia is too much for people then stick to a new commodore or falcon.
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| posted on February 2nd, 2011 at 01:39 PM |
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who doesnt no about these cars ? i have been in the trade 23 years around vw s all my life 
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| posted on February 2nd, 2011 at 09:14 PM |
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Hey vw steve - obviously you are coping some heat here - there is plenty of cliches apply here - buyer beware - hind sight. (it is fun for every one
else but) Chin up bro it will soon pass.
Thanks burls for ur editing except I am not sure what u edited mate as it was the exact post - Hey but whatever gets you thru, right?
Ash - there is always someone or some situation worse than yours - watch the you tube clip and follow this guy he is funny as - especially the clown
scenes and it should help you out enormously - armed with know how everything is easy.
http://www.welding.com.au/dw337-63/weldmatic-190/
iWelding is simple as - get one of these t will do everything and will set u back about 1k. it is 15amp but grind the earth pin to fit into a normal
10amp electrical female plug and the low amp setting say 80 - 100 amps you will need will never blow a fuse wire at this low setting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_OpQjaDnI
Good luck mate - Steve is right - sill repairs are very simple and fun as is all of the body work
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| posted on February 4th, 2011 at 08:58 PM |
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Hey Ash - I would stick with the flares and scoops. That's what attracted you to the car in the first place I'll bet.
If the body is too big a hill to climb right now just put it to one side. There's still plenty to do. Pan, suspension, brakes, gearbox etc.
A decent MIG welder isn't that dear these days. Using it isn't all that hard.
Iv'e always let a project take on a life of it's own. Let the car tell you what it wants.
If you get stuck, do what you want to do rather than what you think you should do. It's all about having fun after all.
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| posted on February 5th, 2011 at 09:02 PM |
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Thanks guys for the positive advice project underway and looking forward to creating something a little original
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| posted on February 6th, 2011 at 10:11 AM |
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going back to the chemical dipping, Minus Paint in SA is apparently the best place in Australia and i read on a review of them which was written 10
years ago the price is about 750 - 1000 for most cars. Don't know how
much it would cost how.
here is their site.
http://www.minuspaint.com.au/
My real concern is who offers E-coating (aka EDP or Electrophoretic Deposition painting)
its basically how they treat and primer cars these days which coats them inside out in every nook and cranny with rust and chemical resistant paint
Making them virtually rust proof.
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| posted on February 6th, 2011 at 09:53 PM |
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Can anyone say what a good body is worth, I mean completely rust free as I have an almost complete 61 car that I may sell. Has only one issue that is
prev owner put type3 gearbox incl longer axles and shafts, therefore the tyres scrub. volma1
They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.
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| posted on February 6th, 2011 at 10:20 PM |
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Forgot to say the body was restored and painted approx 15 years ago and is still as good apart from some shed scratches(no dents) as I bought it 13
years back. volma1
Will try to get some pics in the next few weeks but have some rear shots in the shed that are oversize that I can email to any interested persons.
They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.
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| posted on February 19th, 2011 at 11:04 AM |
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Go do an evening course at your local tafe / high school to learn how to weld.
Theres other things to do while you learn about welding.
Newt
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| posted on February 22nd, 2011 at 03:31 PM |
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Wasn't sure whether to start a new post or continue on, but I will continue on.
Firstly a progress update, body is off the pan and the new floor pans will be welded in soon and that part is going along well.
Now for the body. The body has been 90% blasted, it aint pretty and based on estimates from a shop to do the work and my lack of welding ability and
lack of time to learn to weld I am on the hunt for another body.
If anyone has anything available I am more than interested to check it out.
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| posted on February 22nd, 2011 at 03:52 PM |
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You can do it ash!
I bought a $550 gasless mig 4 years ago and taught myself to weld. I had to replace my whole a pillar and couldn't afford a new body or someone else
to repair it. If u do a mistake you can always grind it out again. It worked for me, and the cars solid as a rock.
Just have to make sure you weld braces to sections before you cut out rotten panels to make sure things align properly and take note of positioning
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| posted on February 26th, 2011 at 10:17 PM |
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hi Ash,
noted the car is up for sale. At least the new owner knows what he is getting. Have you found a new body?
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| posted on February 27th, 2011 at 12:42 AM |
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Shame to see it mate
Hope it doesnt discourage you from moving forward with a VW in the future
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| posted on February 27th, 2011 at 07:24 AM |
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If I can come out of this without too much of a loss I will get something with the body repairs already done,even if i have to paint it the colour I
want.
Not turned off though I now know exactly what I,m looking at.
I see one for sale in toowoomba (yet another yellow one) does anyone know this car?
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| posted on February 27th, 2011 at 07:25 AM |
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Sorry not on carsales it's on eBay
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| posted on March 6th, 2011 at 09:08 PM |
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ghia
Am going to post this 61 ghia soon for sale. volma1
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They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.
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ghia
another pic volma1
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| posted on March 7th, 2011 at 12:21 PM |
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shit that's nice
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| posted on March 9th, 2011 at 08:28 PM |
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so Ash did you buy this one ?
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| posted on March 9th, 2011 at 09:24 PM |
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Yes I did, it's even the colour I wanted. Just need to get it home and get started.
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posted by ashbaxter
cool, looks like Vics Bahn brings them in.
Has anyone dealt with them?
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yes, Vinko is awesome, i got heaps of NOS type 3 parts from him and he tells me he has very few part in the type 3 area.
So that is just saying he has plenty of KG parts. NOS as well.
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