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 vwo60
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| posted on December 1st, 2011 at 07:07 PM |
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My calipers mount with 12mm bolts standard, i cannot work out how they allow adaptors to mount porsche calipers using the two 10mm bolts that attach
the standard caiper to the ball joint spindle, you are generating far more load with the bigger calipers, he is a automotive engineer and accepts the
responsibility for the mods anyway, he has demand a very high standard fort all the mods that i have carried out with him.
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| posted on December 1st, 2011 at 11:23 PM |
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My calipers mount with 12mm bolts standard, i cannot work out how they allow adaptors to mount porsche calipers using the two 10mm bolts that attach
the standard caiper to the ball joint spindle, you are generating far more load with the bigger calipers, he is a automotive engineer and accepts the
responsibility for the mods anyway, he has demand a very high standard fort all the mods that i have carried out with him.
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I can see the reasoning behind it and agree so long as the spindle material for the bolts can handle being tapped out but what I find amusing is the
NCP say the spindles can't be modified. Been a while since I read it but just amusing if I remember it correctly and the engineer can override that
which is written.
Like I said tho I'd love to see a build thread as I will for mine once got the go ahead on the design 
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| posted on December 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 AM |
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Be aware that the engineers primarily design of bolt fastened components is to induce friction between the two contacting surfaces (eg: caliper and
stub axle or adapter etc), thus have the friction to take up the load as opposed to relying on the bolts to take the shear strain of the load across
the bolts cross-section. If 10mm bolts can hold enough axial tension to induce friction between the two contacting surfaces then your set. The
automotive engineer should have taken all this into account.
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| posted on December 2nd, 2011 at 12:24 AM |
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Be aware that the engineers primarily design of bolt fastened components is to induce friction between the two contacting surfaces (eg: caliper and
stub axle or adapter etc), thus have the friction to take up the load as opposed to relying on the bolts to take the shear strain of the load across
the bolts cross-section. If 10mm bolts can hold enough axial tension to induce friction between the two contacting surfaces then your set. The
automotive engineer should have taken all this into account.
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Quite so Chris. Not much surface area on those caliper spindles. Personally I'd use drum spindles for better location and the bracket kicks forward
just like the caliper one would so better in my opinion
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| posted on December 2nd, 2011 at 09:23 AM |
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Wow, . . . . . . . was just doing research on brakes and came across this thread, i remember now why i don't hang out on aussie vw forums,
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 This ones a classic!
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on December 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 AM |
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I must say it impresses me how many people on here are prepared to put in the effort to abide by ADRs.
I won't mention names but members on other forums I'm on would be perfectly satisfied holding calipers on with a couple of old coach bolts, some
fencing wire and a bit of silastic to stop the rattles.
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| posted on December 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 PM |
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I must say it impresses me how many people on here are prepared to put in the effort to abide by ADRs.
I won't mention names but members on other forums I'm on would be perfectly satisfied holding calipers on with a couple of old coach bolts, some
fencing wire and a bit of silastic to stop the rattles.
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Sounds about right mate. Gotta love all those illegal vehicles out there that fortunately you can rely on the CTP in rego to pay for your
rehabilitation as even if they have insurance it's invalid due to a non-comforming modification. Those people should be shot 
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| posted on December 4th, 2011 at 04:49 AM |
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I must say it impresses me how many people on here are prepared to put in the effort to abide by ADRs.
I won't mention names but members on other forums I'm on would be perfectly satisfied holding calipers on with a couple of old coach bolts, some
fencing wire and a bit of silastic to stop the rattles.
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Sounds about right mate. Gotta love all those illegal vehicles out there that fortunately you can rely on the CTP in rego to pay for your
rehabilitation as even if they have insurance it's invalid due to a non-comforming modification. Those people should be shot
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Is that you there Jeremy Clarkson? 
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| posted on December 4th, 2011 at 06:52 AM |
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^^^ Nah !!!! Jeremy lines them in front of thier family to be shot ......
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| posted on January 9th, 2012 at 10:29 AM |
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I do like Clarkson. Least he says what a lot of people are thinking.
Oh and Richard Larson couldn't even be bothered to answer my emails. I don't have the time during the day to fone and in this day and age I feel
unimpressed if someone can't respond to there emails no matter how busy they are.
Anyway, lets hope my original engineer can help when I return in March.
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