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| posted on January 28th, 2012 at 04:24 PM |
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golf springs for a super?
I came across a reference somewhere recently about using a set of golf (rabbit) rear springs for the front struts on a super to add a bit of
stiffness. I cannot find the page where I had read it, would anyone know what year and model golf suits?
Cheers, Dan
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 12:48 AM |
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Found it.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4436332#4436332
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 01:30 AM |
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yeah that was the one Sebastian. Must remember to bookmark ,y late night google discoveries 
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 01:39 AM |
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Ahaha no dramas!
I knew I'd seen it somewhere too, found it by chance and then remembered you were asking for it so I quickly put it up; hope it helps!
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 08:12 AM |
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Hi
I saw somebody using Honda Civic springs somewhere on the web.
Steve
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 09:57 AM |
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Thanks Steve, looks like the honda civic springs lower the front end a little which is not what I am after though 
Actually someone asked recently about a cheap way to lower a beetle.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 10:06 AM |
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posted by 1303Steve
Hi
I saw somebody using Honda Civic springs somewhere on the web.
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Yep works well, EF Civic hatch/CRX rear springs.
The upper rubber spring holder sits nicely inside the lower superbug spring perch and the lower Honda one welds to the upper VW one.
Did that years ago but with Suzuki ones.
If you're gonna be firming up the spring rate would be smart to add a strut brace, as the stiffening the front will transfer alot more shock to the
strut towers which are pretty pissweak by design from the factory.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 10:13 AM |
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thanks Joel already made myself a strutt brace though I think I will reinforce it by tying it into the body to pan bolts in the framehead as well. Out
of curiosity if I raised the front could I change the control arms (not sure if thats what they are called? they attach from the framehead to the
bottom of the strut) with some slightly longer and sturdier ones to retain the correct geometry?
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 10:18 AM |
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Possibly, the later 2 bolt ones are steel so could be lengthened but the ealry 3 bolt ones are cast.
Easier fix would be a get a camber plus kit from Topline, they add a few extra degrees for lowering but also work the same way for lifting.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 11:14 AM |
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Yeah they do look like the easy fix though I may need to just scrub some tyres out while I save for them. I thought maybe I could make them a bit
beefier as well with a steel sleeve or something.
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| posted on February 3rd, 2012 at 08:29 AM |
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I had a thought (possibly a slightly dodgy one ) Joel you mention that
you made your strut brace adjustable if I sturdied up my brace and added a turnbuckle or something for the adjustment would pulling the towers in a
couple of centimeters cancel out the added shock height?
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| posted on February 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM |
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K-mac sell super adjustable strut tops and bits like that. top of the range quality though so be ready to empty you wallet 
http://www.k-mac.com/pages/newprods/vw/vw.htm
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| posted on February 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM |
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OUCH your right about the emptying your wallet bit. That is what i was hoping to avoid with my dodgy home solution of cranking in the strut towers
 there are to many other things that the beetle needs before I worry
that much about camber issues
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| posted on February 3rd, 2012 at 08:31 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Arpspasm
I had a thought (possibly a slightly dodgy one ) Joel you mention that
you made your strut brace adjustable if I sturdied up my brace and added a turnbuckle or something for the adjustment would pulling the towers in a
couple of centimeters cancel out the added shock height?
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Got any pics of how you made your strut brace?
You could use a turn buckle but you would want a fairly decent size one and also good quality so there is absolutley no flex in it otherwise it
defeats the purpose.
You don't want or need too much movement of the towers though it will only weaken the metal.
I've made mine adjustable by having threaded rods that attach by nuts to the plates on each strut tower so they can pull the towers in or push them
out.
This is bout the only pic handy I have
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| posted on February 3rd, 2012 at 08:46 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
Got any pics of how you made your strut brace?
You could use a turn buckle but you would want a fairly decent size one and also good quality so there is absolutley no flex in it otherwise it
defeats the purpose.
You don't want or need too much movement of the towers though it will only weaken the metal.
I've made mine adjustable by having threaded rods that attach by nuts to the plates on each strut tower so they can pull the towers in or push them
out.
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Will post some pics up when I'm finished at the moment the brace looks a fair bit shabbier than yours. By turnbuckle I meant welding up a turnbuclke
like device with 20mm threaded rod and big nuts in the centre of the brace though I like your design I may have to steal it  I think your design would be less prone to flexion than a centre
adjustment.
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