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| posted on February 1st, 2012 at 09:33 PM |
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fitting Wilwood disc brakes to lowlight bus
As the title states, has anyone done this conversion on the rear of their bus?... or something similar
just came across this http://there.dino.com/harold/bus0.php
and the rotors http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?searchType=global&N=0&Ntt=1...
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| posted on February 2nd, 2012 at 08:24 AM |
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If the caliper has no dust boots on the pistons it will be hard to do the swap legally, as far as i know it is best to use a set of proprity calipers
from a car that has been covered by the ADR'S in Australia.
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| posted on February 2nd, 2012 at 08:47 AM |
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pleaase correct me - but I didnt think Wilwod was approved here
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| posted on February 2nd, 2012 at 10:59 AM |
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I have talked to many people about this including VWCOOL, aparently its not aproved even with dust boots.
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| posted on February 2nd, 2012 at 11:18 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwo60
If the caliper has no dust boots on the pistons it will be hard to do the swap legally, as far as i know it is best to use a set of proprity calipers
from a car that has been covered by the ADR'S in Australia.
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They do make a model with a dust boot too. I'm still doing research at the moment, but this got my attention.
Lets say "Yay" for ADR....fuurk
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| posted on February 8th, 2012 at 11:51 PM |
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Don't see why Wilwood or Brembo or AP aren't legal. Any engineer worth his money can approve a brake conversion. Really can't see why this won't
surpass ADR by miles. ADR are the stupidest vehicle rules in the world as it's been written by retards that don't have a brain. Maybe Oz should
adopt German TUV regs for something that is properly thought out!!!!
Fed up of the ADR as you may notice 
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| posted on February 9th, 2012 at 06:26 AM |
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You can achive plenty if you work withinn the rules, if the brembo calipers came on a complianced vehicle you can use them, plenty of good quality
calipers available
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| posted on February 9th, 2012 at 06:55 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by psimitar
Don't see why Wilwood or Brembo or AP aren't legal. Any engineer worth his money can approve a brake conversion. Really can't see why this won't
surpass ADR by miles. ADR are the stupidest vehicle rules in the world as it's been written by retards that don't have a brain. Maybe Oz should
adopt German TUV regs for something that is properly thought out!!!!
Fed up of the ADR as you may notice
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As was stated earlier most Wilwood we see in this country
dont have a dust boot so crap can get into the bore and all of a sudden you have leaks and possibly brake failure, leading to an accident and when the
insurance company see's the calipers then no insurance. Dust boots serve a purpose. Wilwood didnt make street calipers they made race application
where pad changes are needed to be done quickly so no seals.
As we can see they do a caliper with a dust seal so your engineer should pass this if not find a local caliper that has the ADR needed and use
that.
Just my 5 cents.
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| posted on February 9th, 2012 at 08:03 AM |
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posted by psimitar
Don't see why Wilwood or Brembo or AP aren't legal. Any engineer worth his money can approve a brake conversion. Really can't see why this won't
surpass ADR by miles. ADR are the stupidest vehicle rules in the world as it's been written by retards that don't have a brain. Maybe Oz should
adopt German TUV regs for something that is properly thought out!!!!
Fed up of the ADR as you may notice
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As was stated earlier most Wilwood we see in this country
dont have a dust boot so crap can get into the bore and all of a sudden you have leaks and possibly brake failure, leading to an accident and when the
insurance company see's the calipers then no insurance. Dust boots serve a purpose. Wilwood didnt make street calipers they made race application
where pad changes are needed to be done quickly so no seals.
As we can see they do a caliper with a dust seal so your engineer should pass this if not find a local caliper that has the ADR needed and use
that.
Just my 5 cents.
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Obviously I meant their sealed version as no country allows unsealed calipers for road use.
Check out Porsche 924 and 944 calipers but buy them in the USA or UK as Oz prices are retardedly high, if you could even find some. Even my Gold VR6
calipers where half price with shipping compared to Oz scrappies.
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| posted on February 9th, 2012 at 02:41 PM |
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handbrake ? , try mazda series 4 or hilux or range rover or good old volvo cast 4 piston ..hsv??
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| posted on February 12th, 2012 at 09:17 PM |
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lock it in eddie
^^^^^^^^^^ yeah but a line lock would be nice to have, If you know what I mean 
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| posted on February 12th, 2012 at 10:01 PM |
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You could speak to George at classic. He had wilwood copies there the other week. Pretty cheap, but I can't vouch for quality.
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| posted on February 12th, 2012 at 11:45 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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You could speak to George at classic. He had wilwood copies there the other week. Pretty cheap, but I can't vouch for quality.
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Ah George. The guy who don't answer email price enquiries cos he don't put em on the website.
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 11:12 AM |
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they better work!!!
| Quote: | Originally
posted by cam070
You could speak to George at classic. He had wilwood copies there the other week. Pretty cheap, but I can't vouch for quality.
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For brakes I think I will go with wilwood, cheap is not good for brakes 
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 12:44 PM |
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Just read your thread binner,You haven't mentioned why you want discs?have you experiencd brake fade?failure?and under what circumstances?I'm
wondering are you looking for improved braking or are you wanting it to sound good in a magazine.From my limmited experence half the cool stuff ruins
what makes your VW a VW!For example How does the Hand brake assy hook up to the wilwoods?You might try having a chat with some people who have done a
lot of towing with their kombis,Boris,The Pells,Wayne Penrose ,Matt berry and countless others that have done a lot of towing with disc and drum
kombis.
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 08:15 PM |
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^^^ I don't wan't to be in a magazine, this isn't going to be a show ute it's going to serve as a family tourer/travel/camp vehicle. Discs are
there for helping me pull up when I'm towing. I want to keep the front brakes stock but beef up the rear for when I'm towing, hence looking at rear
discs.
Line loc isn't a solution as I don't want the loc on for a long period so I need to think more about.
Just found out John Sherman does a conversion kit that may suit. I don't see a problem with updating parts or reworking parts to function better on
VW's , I see it goes on quiet a bit these days....
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 08:25 PM |
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Shermans gear ain't well engineered so don't bother.
For towing you'll need a biasing valve on the rears that self bias' depending on weight on the back. Just like utes and panel vans. If you don't
then under non-towing conditions you may well find the rears locking up before the fronts and that is dangerous and not allowed by the ADR. You can
also get cabin adjustable bias valves but dunno if ADR allow this?
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 08:55 PM |
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rules of engagement
^^^ yeah ,was looking at the cabin bias route but I see ADR is really tight on a few things. I'm glad I'm sorting this out now rather than waiting
till I'm closer to the time when I'm ready to fit....
I love living by many rules...
am I allowed to fit a door popper on the cab door? 
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 09:44 PM |
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have a chat to richard at vforce.. i know he has a disc brake set up for sale.
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