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 Ginger Ninja
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 posted on February 12th, 2012 at 10:27 AM |
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new guy with a few "interesting" questions
I have been looking for a suitable vehicle to convert for my main hobby of paintball.
Much like a sand rail it will be made up from a metal cage based off of the pan.
From my research I believe the VW will be a great start with its air cooled engine (simple enough right?) and its steel pan floor.
It wont need to go fast but I do intend on putting a reasonable amount of weight back on it with the frame (after the body is removed)
Are you able to use a automatic transmission with a buggie engine/pan? (from a bus?)
What year? I have read that I should stay away from super bugs due to their front end suspension and I'm not sure if a swing arm is going to cause me
much trouble at the speeds it will travel (40kmph will be fast for it...)
It will have to run is some horrible ground conditions so I have been looking at reduction boxes. Will this give much more low end torque? what do I
need to know about them/ where can I read up on them?
It will never have to be road worthy (trailer queen) so what is the most stable way of gaining ground clearance?
Whats a good price for a pan and running gear? I keep watching them on ebay but they seem to go for different prices presumably due to subtle
differences that I'm not interested in but a VW restorer is.
Lastly am I going to break a few hearts in the VW community if I irreparably modify a VW in this way therefore alienating me from all VW shops and
forums (jk, well kinda...) |
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| posted on February 12th, 2012 at 10:59 AM |
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welcome aboard
currently..
purists are slaving upon the grinding stone sharpening weapons of choice whilst trying to triangulate your position with their new 'slay a VW
chopper' app
each to there own but it won't be hard to find a 'wreck' to build your dreams from
VW shops will love your coin just the same
looking forward to your pictures of the build
erm.. where abouts are you?? 
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Ginger Ninja
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| posted on February 12th, 2012 at 11:57 AM |
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Thanks mate, I understand the sentiment. If someone was going to do this to a mini I would be leading the pack....
I'm kinda hoping I can find a wreck that won't be missed in any major way...
Oh and I'm in Adelaide Sa. |
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| posted on February 12th, 2012 at 08:58 PM |
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what about a suzuki stockman?
volkaholics.net come check us out
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| posted on February 13th, 2012 at 12:19 AM |
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An old Beetle will certainly do the job for that. I wouldn't worry too much about reduction boxes, as you should be able to get wherever you want to
go in first and second gear. I'm assuming that you will just use any old cheap tyres and won't need to bother with proper off-road tyres? What kind
of budget are you looking at for the whole thing? If you want good grip and added ground clearance then bigger tyres are the first step. If you're on
a budget then this may require getting some used 4wd tyres and then perhaps converting your stud pattern to fit the big rims using adapter plates.
Adapters are easy to make and will work for your application although they're not road legal.
Automatic is kind of an issue, because it won't be particularly cheap or easy to find one to suit a bug. Is it important to have an automatic
transmission? If the driver is focused only on driving and not fighting, then they should be able to handle a manual transmission easily.
One question that I would ask is, how big does it need to be and how good does it need to be off-road? I'm assuming that this will be used only on
paintball fields, so they should be mostly flat paddocks and not too many big obstacles? Maybe a bit of muddy forest here and there?
If I was going to build a vehicle like you describe, I would buy any old automatic hatchback that I could get for a few hundred dollars and then rip
into it with the angle grinder. If you are going to replace the structural integrity of the body with a tube frame, then you can quite happily cut off
almost every part of a monocoque car except the floorpan, firewall and strut towers. In fact, you may even find that you don't need to bother with
the tube frame if you get a bit creative with the angle grinder. Throw away the doors and maybe cut some hatches in the roof to pop up from or
whatever it is that you need. If you wanted 4wd, then you could even start with an old Subaru of some description to give you extra off-road
capability. Or if you could find something going cheap you could even start with a proper 4wd. I've seen old 4wd utes being sold for about a thousand
bucks or less, which would do everything you need and more. You probably wouldn't even need to do much to the body, just paint it in NATO green and
away you go!
There is some kind of workshop in Adelaide who seem to specialise in building buggies from cut-down cars and then trying to sell them for a fortune on
eBay. Here's their website: http://www.risingsuncarservice.com.au/Buggies.htm
I would recommend copying their techniques and doing it yourself rather than paying their rip-off prices. Enjoy!
Notice the way that they have kept the floorpan, firewall, strut towers and inner wheelarches. The inner wheelarches support the strut towers and then
a roll cage tube extends to brace the top of each strut tower and tie it into the roll cage. They've also kept the door sills, as these are an
important structural element of the car. Here's another example:
http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?11001-Subaru-Buggy
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