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 Bizarre
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 09:41 AM |
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Waterproofing Inner door
Anyone got a picture of the inner door with the panel off??
I replaced my door panels the other day because they were cloth and getting dirty.
Turned out to be water coming through. I refixed the plastic that had been torn over the years, but my new panels are wet again.
Yes its been pissing down unnaturally here in Sydney, but my car lives outside 24/7 so I need it fixed
Also what plastic are you using.
I got a large black garbage bag and opened it flat but it seems the be coming through this?? porous??
Would like to see where it is stuck down in the middle to allow the door latch to pass through.
These are 1975 L bug doors if that matters
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 10:18 AM |
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Barry, the standard door waterproof sheet is normaly just stuck to the inside of the door, directly behind the door cards.
Because I put remote central locking and electric windows in my bug, I moved the waterproof sheet to the back of the inside door skin, but inside the
window glass so I could keep the water off the electrics.
This is the electrics in the door (before the car was re-sprayed).
Central locking -
Electric windows -
So here is the waterproof sheet (I used blue plastic tarpaulin material, because that is what I had) behind the inside door skin.
And here is where I fixed it at the top, to the top of the internal door skin, inside the window glass. I glued it on with contact glue - bugger of a
job though.
That was nearly 5 years ago, and I haven't had any problems so far (touch wood).
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 04:02 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bizarre
Anyone got a picture of the inner door with the panel off??
I replaced my door panels the other day because they were cloth and getting dirty.
Turned out to be water coming through. I refixed the plastic that had been torn over the years, but my new panels are wet again.
Yes its been pissing down unnaturally here in Sydney, but my car lives outside 24/7 so I need it fixed
Also what plastic are you using.
I got a large black garbage bag and opened it flat but it seems the be coming through this?? porous??
Would like to see where it is stuck down in the middle to allow the door latch to pass through.
These are 1975 L bug doors if that matters
Barry
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I think normally they used a clear plastic with adhesive [sticky] on one side and went over the outer door skin then the rubber/plastic plugs fitted
all round... from memory
so no water can touch the door card...
I used thick clear plastic I found somewhere...
Jeffs idea is better...
inside the door... You would need to clean where you are going to glue it.. inside the door under the inner panel so all water drips down into the
bottom of the door..
but the window winder is still a pain..!!
maybe back to the outer part of the door...
remember the original plastic was sticky ALL over..
and went right to the bottom... of the door card so any water would drip from Under the card...
just under the top of the door card and just to the bottom of the door card.. all stuck All over the door...
the water isn't coming in the 1/4 window??? common..
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| posted on April 7th, 2012 at 11:02 PM |
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The plastic bag off a new mattress works well.
Bought a sofa the other day and the plastic it was wrapped in looked pretty good too.
It looked like it came off a continuous roll so try a sofa shop.
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| posted on April 8th, 2012 at 02:10 AM |
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It seems to be the factories desire for residual water that passes into the door to simply pass through into the bottom and via the factory drain
holes.
The only water proofing on my 69' provided courtesy by the factory was the glued on plastic sheet all have refered to thus far, which was just inside
the door card, fastened by glue just inside of the door card clips. Simply keeps the water inside the door, but not pass through the card or into the
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| posted on April 8th, 2012 at 09:32 AM |
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Hi
I have a roll somewhere of good stuff to use, its about as tough as landscaping plastic sheet, you could also cover the back of the door trim with
contact paper for extra insurance.
Steve
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| posted on May 5th, 2013 at 09:03 PM |
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i used this...cheap from bunnings....maybe $10-15
Josh
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| posted on May 6th, 2013 at 02:24 PM |
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Here's the original weatherproofing on my 65 German built.
Even on Aussie built it was only ever glued around the perimeter.
If you used repro clip seals they let water in easy. If you didn't use clip seals ... even worse.
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| posted on May 6th, 2013 at 04:17 PM |
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It may have only been with 70s Beetles but they also glued rings of foam around the window winder and the handle to stop drafts coming in around
them.
You can see the remains of where it was glued in around Jeffs door handle before his door was resprayed.
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| posted on May 9th, 2013 at 10:05 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by bajachris88
It seems to be the factories desire for residual water that passes into the door to simply pass through into the bottom and via the factory drain
holes.
The only water proofing on my 69' provided courtesy by the factory was the glued on plastic sheet all have refered to thus far, which was just inside
the door card, fastened by glue just inside of the door card clips. Simply keeps the water inside the door, but not pass through the card or into the
cabin.
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yes thats how all cars are, but the question is where do you get that glue from?
its more like gum that never drys and has the ability to re glue itself.
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| posted on May 9th, 2013 at 10:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by lenny1870
i used this...cheap from bunnings....maybe $10-15
Josh
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I used that stuff for a spray booth, but its awfully waxy and hard for anything to stick to it. I struggled to get packing tape to stick to it.
guess you could always wax n' grease remover it first?
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| posted on May 9th, 2013 at 10:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
I have a roll somewhere of good stuff to use, its about as tough as landscaping plastic sheet, you could also cover the back of the door trim with
contact paper for extra insurance.
Steve
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few coats of good varnish helps a lot, then always a self adhesive film on it too. just some clear or plain black or white vinyl would be good and
easy to apply.
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