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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 11:37 AM |
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Z plates and dropped spring plates
Hi all
Am looking at dropping the back of my 67. I want the two clicks/splines height without the toe in and ridiculous negative camber issues (if
possible).
I am considering adjustable spring plates, but have also seen chat on here about "notched" spring plates. Not keen on cutting up bits, as I want
the option to go back to stock/original.
I understand additional length in the spring plates is also desirable - for handling and tyre wear reasons.
So where can I get pre-made "notched" spring plates? I have also read about "z plates" (the samba).
Anyone have them or have a view about what is the best option for this type of modification?
Please - this is not an invitation for modification haters to grandstand about legality. All other views, thought, advice and recommendations are
welcome!
Cheers
Hus
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 12:27 PM |
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Hi Hus,
These blokes from the UK make off the shelf stuff that drop the rear end
http://www.red9design.com/
If you looking to drop the back of a swing-axle and don't want crazy negative camber it's not going to happen, the suspension moves through an arc
not in a straight up and down arrangement so if you want low you've got to cop the negative camber.
Something to keep in mind is if you go too low the bearings at the end of the axles won't get lubed as they rely on a supply from the gearbox down
the axle tubes.
Not a fan of adjustable spring plates for the sheer fact that the spring plates are designed to flex and actually twist as the axle moves so making
that into a 2 piece job joined by a screw isn't my idea of safe. This is also the only piece locating the axle where it needs to be.
my 2c
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Shaun
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 03:33 PM |
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I have run the adjustable swayaway spring plates for years with no issues, they are not the chineese crap you get now, as for lowering you are going
to be stuck with the excess negitive camber, increase tyre wear and a crap ride.
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 03:53 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by hus22l
Please - this is not an invitation for modification haters to grandstand about legality. All other views, thought, advice and recommendations are
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Well put.... it needs to be spelled out occasionally.
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 04:03 PM |
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no mention of modification hate or grand standing about legality, just advice gained by experence
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 04:34 PM |
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As sander288 has pointed out, if you lower a swing-axle rear in the normal way, whether with notched or z-plates or spline adjustment, you get
negative camber and its consequences. The only ways to lower significantly without the negative camber are:
- change to IRS or
- raise the gearbox relative to the pan or
- lower the body relative to the pan.
The first is a common modification, the second is a lot of palaver but other modifiers here have done it and the third is hardly seen in the VW scene
but is common in hot-rods (channeling).
hth
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| posted on June 4th, 2012 at 06:44 PM |
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Appreciate the comments everyone. I will check the red9 crew out. Will be in the uk later in the year, so might save on freight! 
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