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|  posted on November 5th, 2013 at 09:11 PM | 
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 type 3 calipers 
 
 
Does anyone know what the bolt spacing is for t3 calipers and piston size...I have searched the net and think the early t3 calipers are same as t1
bolt spacing and later are 3" spacing,correct?? 
 
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|  posted on November 5th, 2013 at 09:58 PM | 
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Not sure of the bolt spacing dimension, all Type3s use 42 mm pistons, the early Type 3 callipers have the same bolt spacing as all Beetles
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|  posted on November 5th, 2013 at 10:46 PM | 
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Was wondering as 914-4 guys use a BMW caliper as a upgrade.a stock 914 caliper is a t3 one but with the 3" spacing so must be the late t3 caliper
....so that means the BMW caliper will not be a bolt on deal to the bug bj spindle... 
 
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|  posted on November 6th, 2013 at 08:14 AM | 
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Hi 
 
the only OEM calliper that bolts onto a Beetle stub is from a UK car called a Talbot Horizon, I've tried to source these with no luck, they use a 48
mm piston. 
 
The only other solution is to use a plate to adapt another acliper 
 
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|  posted on November 6th, 2013 at 07:53 PM | 
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hi I put these on my 68 beetle years ago used drum brake spindles and brought adaptor plates from vintage vw give borris a ring he would know
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|  posted on November 6th, 2013 at 09:42 PM | 
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Thanks guys
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|  posted on November 13th, 2013 at 11:48 PM | 
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There's way better ways to upgrade the brakes Chris.... Cheaper, lighter and easier to source. 
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|  posted on November 14th, 2013 at 12:29 PM | 
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^ what humpty said.
 
 
 
 
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|  posted on November 21st, 2013 at 12:25 AM | 
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Check out my wanky brakes, there are cheaper options not soover the top. Im happy to show you what ive done and help you out. 
 
Gotta have good brakes, steering and suss, engine later
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|  posted on December 11th, 2013 at 12:43 AM | 
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Im curious. Second poster said that early type 3s had 42mm pistons on a type 1 spacing. 
 
I havent heard of that before. 
 
Is it right? 
 
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|  posted on December 11th, 2013 at 12:40 PM | 
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Yes the calipers are 42mm, most if not all of the aftermarket sellers sell the type 1 caliper as fitting the type 3. Which is not entirely correct, as
the piston size is different. In '72 they went from 80 cm² to 100 cm² in the pad surface area.
 
 
 
 
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|  posted on December 11th, 2013 at 04:38 PM | 
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Im curious. Second poster said that early type 3s had 42mm pistons on a type 1 spacing. 
 
I havent heard of that before. 
 
Is it right? 
 
Cheers 
 
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Not many people are  aware of this, even a Sydney VW specialist was unaware of it until we pushed the pistons out of a pair of Type 3 callipers, those
callipers are now fitted to my sons 1303 
 
They are twin pin like a 72 superbug but only have one bleed nipple, so the callipers are left or right handed
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|  posted on December 11th, 2013 at 08:32 PM | 
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Cheers guys for the info...I have purchase some two pot wilwoods to try on the rear.I was thinking about selling my front brakes and also having two
pot on the front but might just run what I already have and plumb in a bias valve,was originally thinking bout making a pedal box with balance bar
etc,but its just more stuffing around and $$ so I'm winging it with the new combo,fingers crossed... 
 
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|  posted on December 12th, 2013 at 12:04 PM | 
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I have made these pedal boxes, copy of a Tilton, been in use in rally cars for a few years and work well allowing use of any brake combination.  Have
a couple left, Simon knows of me.
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|  posted on December 12th, 2013 at 12:27 PM | 
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|  posted on December 14th, 2013 at 06:54 PM | 
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Bolt spacings are different between early and late type 3's. Later type 3's have a wider spacing, and are difficult to get replacements as they
don't fit anything else. They also have the bigger pads as stated in an earlier post.
 
 
 
 
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|  posted on December 14th, 2013 at 09:10 PM | 
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They also fit the 411 and earlier 914
 
 
 
 
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|  posted on December 31st, 2013 at 09:26 PM | 
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Guys, 
 
Just following on from the line of thought about the earlier type 3 calipers (42mm piston and type 1 spacing).  
 
Did they run with the type 1 rotor or the thicker/larger type 3 rotor? 
 
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|  posted on January 1st, 2014 at 09:29 AM | 
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they use a Type 1 rotor
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|  posted on January 2nd, 2014 at 10:15 PM | 
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Ahhhh! - I through some out 14 years ago - cos I didnt think they would fit.    
 
 
 
 
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