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 DungBeetle
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| posted on November 10th, 2013 at 12:24 PM |
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building a later beetle to resemble an early model
Currently in search of my first beetle, due to my budget I'm restricted mostly to bugs in the 70-78 year range however I'm more keen on earlier
bugs.
Is it possible to mix and match panels from different years to make a later bug look earlier?
I have seen a few people dropping earlier shells on later floor pans but would the mis matching vin's cause any drama's with
registration/legalities?
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| posted on November 10th, 2013 at 01:31 PM |
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shouldnt be a problem as it would be registered as the later pan year ,the body hasnt got a number as such , am looking at doing similar with my 69
body ,putting earlier front guards etc but still using the short bonnet ,as there is a lot to do to get the latching changed , back decklid is easier
as you can change the rear valance to be removable ,then use the earlier valance , most people call them wrong-uns, its just that i like the earlier
look ,but i like my semi -auto as well , i looked on Volkzone and got a few threads about it all , but as some will say ,if you havent got one yet
best to just start with an early
http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=861929&highlight=late+beetl...
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DungBeetle
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| posted on November 10th, 2013 at 05:20 PM |
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yeah I'd like to tart with an early but they are out of my price range, they do pop up from time to time in a state of disrepair but I need to buy
something that's running, plenty of late 70's examples going for around the $3500 mark with only minor things needed for rwc but not much earlier
than that.
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| posted on November 10th, 2013 at 07:52 PM |
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I know of a 65 ish for 2500 -3000 very clean orig paint , contact "okrasa power" on here its in syd
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| posted on November 10th, 2013 at 11:07 PM |
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The Euro's have their "Standard 1200" model. It looks basically like a big window (eg 1970s or so) complete with air vents behind the side rear
glass, but with early sloping headlights, long bonnet and early 2-colour small tail lights.
Put on the guards and lights you want them tell everybody it's a special import.........
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| posted on November 11th, 2013 at 09:38 AM |
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One thing you will have to watch if re bodying is the body will have to meet the ADRs for the chassis, eg if its after 1/73 it has to have a padded
dash, after 12/74 needs charcoal canister, 10/71 needs reverse lights and highback seats etc to be legal
Make sure if you do wanna go that way you get a Beetle not a superbug, the vast majority of 70s bugs in Aus are Superbugs as people wanted bigger
engine, disc brakes and better suspension.
They dont make early look bugs easily or well, front bonnet sits higher, guards dont swap etc.
Also the 72onwards bugs with the bigger back window really dont look right when people try to make them look early.
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The Euro's have their "Standard 1200" model. It looks basically like a big window (eg 1970s or so) complete with air vents behind the side rear
glass, but with early sloping headlights, long bonnet and early 2-colour small tail lights.
Put on the guards and lights you want them tell everybody it's a special import.........
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It's really only the early bumpers and tail lights that are different externally with them
THey never had the sloping headlights after 68, even the 1200s had to go to upright headlights, they just kept the old style horn grilles till about
72.
Fiiting early guards to them is just a swap people have done in the past, wasnt factory.
THey just had the mid 60s style tail lights up till 73, after that they had to go the big sqaure bumpers and round elephants feet tail lights to meet
regulations.
They didnt have the rear side crescent vents either, just the indentation of where they were meant to be.
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| posted on November 11th, 2013 at 05:00 PM |
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yeahI'm aware of the difference between superbugs and regular bugs.
rule of thumb is if the spare tyre sits flat, it's a super.
maybe I'll have to piece one together, you know find a chassis and fix that up while looking for a body.
I'm in brisbane so there's not a great deal of them available for sale in my price bracket, just have to see how I go I suppose.
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| posted on November 16th, 2013 at 09:50 AM |
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Just on ADR.
A collapsable steering wheel and laminated front window goes in at some year as well.
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| posted on December 3rd, 2013 at 02:16 PM |
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Beetles never had a laminated windscreen in Australia.
Seat belts could be a problem.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on December 3rd, 2013 at 09:22 PM |
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Interesting - what happens now with Beetles.
My winscreen man said it was illegal for him to instal a non laminated front windscren.
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| posted on December 4th, 2013 at 09:05 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Newt
Interesting - what happens now with Beetles.
My winscreen man said it was illegal for him to instal a non laminated front windscren.
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Simple - they install laminated ones.
O'Brien replaced the one in my 70 bug a few months back (free - thanks Shannons) and there wasn't even a question/comment on it.
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| posted on December 4th, 2013 at 09:14 AM |
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You'll be hard pressed to find many VWs still with original windscreens.
In the last 14 years I've put 3 windscreens in mine thanks to rocks.
The rocks usually bounce of the bonnet straight into it.
Even if they don't get badly chipped or cracked by rocks they are usually so badly etched after 4+decades that driving at night is like trying to see
through news paper.
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| posted on January 1st, 2014 at 05:04 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
You'll be hard pressed to find many VWs still with original windscreens.
In the last 14 years I've put 3 windscreens in mine thanks to rocks.
The rocks usually bounce of the bonnet straight into it.
Even if they don't get badly chipped or cracked by rocks they are usually so badly etched after 4+decades that driving at night is like trying to see
through news paper.
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Mine still has the OG windscreen with 38 lots of razor blade scratches from the lil old lady trying to remove rego labels!!
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 11:31 AM |
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What about coupes, do they do laminated fronts (and can they be sourced locally)?
Cheers
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