Subject: Ashley Roan of http://www.volksculture.com/ ?
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posted on November 28th, 2014 at 09:36 AM
Ashley Roan of http://www.volksculture.com/ ?
I'm trying to connect with Ashley Roan about Bill Moore's data (The CB Register, gallery pics of CB's, and Bill's
contact info about CB owners, specifically and especially about those in North America). Lots of this data is on the
Volksulture site... wondering how it all got there.........
Current count for N.A.: 12
Rare birds here, to say the least......
Anyone that can provide information about Ashley and what I'm attempting to learn, or other info Bill Moore had in his
possession, I would be very appreciative. Even contact info for Bill's family members could be very helpful in this endeavor.
Anybody know anything about all this???
I've been around this forum since August 14th, 2007 and communicated with Bill for a couple of years prior to that. I'm just looking for some help
from anyone.....
Anyone?
Regards,
Steve
p.s. You can PM me if you don't care to post sensitive info.
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posted on November 28th, 2014 at 06:22 PM
I will contact him & ask him to look at this,
I believe Bill was fairly active on that forum also
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posted on November 29th, 2014 at 09:38 AM
Thanks Nath, and hi Steve.
As mentioned in my message to you a few weeks ago, I have been very busy running my business and OS. I do run Volks Culture, a relatively quiet site
all things considered. VC was started by Bill Moore, Stephen Muller and myself, and because of Bill's passion for Country Buggys, it became the
logical place to host the Country Buggy register where Bill could maintain it, and link to albums of photos on each vehicle etc. For my part I have
tried to keep the register updated, and I do get occasional emails from CB owners, although I honestly believe that someone else with the same CB
passion as Bill picks up where he left off - I don't know who that is just yet.
As I'm sure you realise, a great deal of Bill's CB knowledge has sadly been lost with his passing. As far as I am aware, his collection of
documentation, manuals, brochures, collectibles and photos etc. is still in the possession of his wife Shirley. The future of which is a subject that
I do not feel comfortable broaching with her directly. Probably best for Stephen Muller who was one of Bills best mates.
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posted on November 29th, 2014 at 10:59 PM
Ash,
Thanks for your timely and informative reply. Much appreciated. I have also received communications from Steve Muller and cb john on the general topic
of the data and information collected by Bill Moore for years after my posting of this thread here at the forum, prior to your reply. It was very
helpful to receive their perspectives, opinions, and thoughts on the sensitive subject of Bill's intellectual property. Thanks guys for your
input.
I completely understand and empathize with the very sensitive and delicate nature of talking about the body of Bill's work and research. After all,
it was his property, and after his demise, rightfully becomes the property of his family, unless legally specified otherwise. The last thing I want is
to come off as "The Ugly American" or "The Intrusive, Prying Foreigner" in this discussion. I purposely want to avoid stepping on anyone's toes,
bruising sensitivities, or adding insult to injury in a discussion about this topic.
My sole interest and focus is the preservation of his work and hopefully future accessibility to his work by fellow CB owners and enthusiasts. One of
my big concerns about all his info is what will become of it in the future. I know The CB Register is now posted at Volksculture, but I don't believe
this is widely or generally known. I've not seen anything posted anywhere else pointing to The Register being hosted at Volksculture......no "send
your CB info to The CB Register @xxx for cataloging and updating" link, announcement, or notice. I don't believe that is widely known where The
Register is and how to add information to the knowledge base. I don't really think most people have any idea where or to whom to send new information
that might be relevant to post to The Register. I know Bill spent hours of time over several years communicating with people about their CBs and/or
leads from non owners on CBs they knew about to add to The Register. It had to be a painfully slow and arduous process involving small pieces and bits
of disparate and random information and reports. In some cases I'm sure it took years to assemble data on a particular vehicle. What I'm talking
about is a developing a mechanism to help and allow this information base to grow and expand, and not remain stagnant from the day of Bill's death. I
never had the privilege of meeting Bill (we were a half a world apart, and we communicated for about 10 years), but I have the sense he would want
someone or a group to continue the work he initiated on CBs. I, for one, would particularly like to access any contact info Bill might have collected
on North America owners, i.e. names, more detailed locations, email addresses, and phone numbers, if available. Ease of access to information among
owners and enthusiasts would allow Bill's work to live on. That should be the goal, in my opinion.
Another thing to consider is pictures of CBs. I see there are several pictures posted @ Volksculture which Bill, Ash, and others have posted of CBs,
but those pics aren't all in one place.....in one all inclusive CB album. Having everything in an exclusive CB Album would be very helpful for
researching and finding CBs. The best example I have seen thus far is what Graham Cockram (11cab) did at http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/Country-Buggies . The main
problem there is Graham tells me he's locked out of that server and can't edit or add to anything. It would be super if all the CB pics could be
centralized in one place for ease of access. Just something to consider.
Since Bill loved CBs so much, I'm sure his collection of items and data, have a huge importance to his family. But I wonder if his family really
realizes how much Bill's work and efforts mean to the larger world, specifically the Country Buggy community? Having access to Bill's files,
particularly his electronic files of CB info would help preserve and allow his work to live on. A few hours with an outboard hard drive copying files
might help save his work for years to come. I'm sure he would want his efforts to live on, and he would likely want his family to help insure that
occurs.
Given the very sensitive nature of all this, I completely comprehend the idea of respecting the family and giving them the time and space they need to
heal from their sudden and surprising loss. I'm all for that. I also realize only those individuals who are really close with Bill's family members,
will be able to sense when the time for an inquiry and a discussion about the disposition of his intellectual property is right. All I can add
is......if you never ask, you'll never know. If you wait too long to ask, it might disappear.
The overall story of the Country Buggy is an interesting chapter in the annals of Volkswagen in Australia. I am always keen to receive new
information, photos and details of cars that were not on the Register. I am not trying to re write history of this unique vehicle but more fill in
all the missing gaps. As time passes, the opportunity to close the gaps diminish with key VW historians falling off the perch. The information, data
and history may end up at the local tip.
I think Country Buggy Bill gave us future direction and a clear path to follow without ever realizing at the time this thought was written, what it
should mean to the rest of us who care about the VW Country Buggy. It was his vision into the future, beyond his "perch".
Well spoken, Mr. Moore.......
Thanks for your inputs, time, and consideration.
Respectfully,
Steve
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posted on November 30th, 2014 at 08:51 AM
In terms of images, Bill intended the register itself to be the link to any CB images on Volks Culture. There is a central CB album where all images
can be found, but over and above that, the Country Buggys we did have images of, were linked from the KO number in the register.
I don't know why Bill didn't announce the change of locations for the register to the CB community, that said the register is extremely easy to find
being number 1 in a Google search for "Country Buggy register".
