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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 04:45 PM |
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WTB Kombi auto box
Hi guys.
I'd like to do an auto box in a beetle pan.
Does anyone have one?
Preferably with the selector and all the bits.
Greig
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 05:45 PM |
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Sounds interesting.I have done a Type3 auto into a Beetle pan.What do you have planned?
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 06:39 PM |
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I liked your build. I posted in there.
My wife bought a Meyers Manx, so we've stripped it down and started a rebuild.
Initially I was going to just get it sorted out and registered, however I'm finding more things that need fixing.
I've got front and rear disc brake conversion kits to go on and I picked up a IRS rear today. I think an auto would be awesome on the sand so I
figured rather than spend the money on a manual box and set-up, why not go straight to Auto.
Being a Manx buggy it should be easier than into your beetle because if it hangs out a bit further it won't really matter.
I did one in a beetle back in about 1981. The box and IRS was type 3 wagon back then.
My wife thinks an auto would be ideal.
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 07:21 PM |
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 07:41 PM |
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The Kombi autos are wider across the drive flanges, so you will end up with a really short axle on one side. You may run into to trouble with your
rear suspension travel being reduced to avoid CV binding. The use of 944 cvs may help regain some lost articulation. This is something you may need to
look into before taking the plunge.
There are several autos to choose from-
003 auto found in the Type 3s, probably the easiest as there is no mods to the axles to get it to fit(other mods needed thought)
003 Kombi auto which uses the same basic auto section as the Type 3 auto but with a beefer and wider diff section
010 Kombi auto fitted to the 2 litre engine, has the wider diff
090 T3 auto which is basically a 010 made to suit the 2.1 WBX
I think the 003 from the Type 3 would be enough in a Manx.
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 08:11 PM |
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Thanks for the info.
Being so light you're right that the T3 would probably be sufficient. It's not like we'll be racing it, just hitting the beach.
Do you guys know of any boxes and ancillary components available?
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 10:02 PM |
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I just read the hot rod thread.
Who's Aaron Roberts that does the auto's?
I'm at the Sunshine Coast by the way.
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 10:14 PM |
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The was a poster on here a while ago called OvalGlen
His brother had an auto in a beetle
Not sure - but it could have been a race car and not road registered.
Glenn was part of Bad Little Bugged in western Sydney
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| posted on August 9th, 2019 at 11:30 PM |
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Aaron Roberts does a lot of work on Autos - I think he is on the Gold Coast. This is his thread on here https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=97112&page=13 and this is the contract details he has on that
thread
AARON'S SPEED SHIFT AUTOS
Specialising in Vw automatic transmissions, differentials and torque converters
Stock or modified to suit your application (street, drag, off road)
Ph 0402 233 027
I don't know if these details are still current though
From your ole' mate Jeff
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| posted on August 10th, 2019 at 08:29 AM |
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Hi
subarugears.com are developing a reversed Subaru auto that can be used with a Subaru or any other motor by using an adaptor plate, they are in Perth
WA.
They already do reversed 5 or 6 manual for use in rear engine cars.
I think the Subaru auto maybea bit smaller than a VW one
Steve
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| posted on August 10th, 2019 at 09:23 AM |
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Todd has been working on the subaru auto for years and have not seen any indication that it is close to being available. The Subaru auto is massive,
half again as big as a 003.
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| posted on August 10th, 2019 at 10:40 AM |
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posted by TAFEteacher
I liked your build. I posted in there.
My wife bought a Meyers Manx, so we've stripped it down and started a rebuild.
Initially I was going to just get it sorted out and registered, however I'm finding more things that need fixing.
I've got front and rear disc brake conversion kits to go on and I picked up a IRS rear today. I think an auto would be awesome on the sand so I
figured rather than spend the money on a manual box and set-up, why not go straight to Auto.
Being a Manx buggy it should be easier than into your beetle because if it hangs out a bit further it won't really matter.
I remembered you posting back then-so I went back and read all your stuff.You were a very busy young bloke.You have already got heaps of experience
with a conversion.If you have a Manx Buggy,you will have some clearance issues under the spare wheel box with the LH suspension arm when you IRS it.I
did a conversion on one some years ago.I just unbolted the body and chocked it up while I fitted the pivot boxes.When I lowered it to bolt back up,the
spare wheel box sat hard on the arm.Oh shit-had to cut about 100mm off the fibreglass and patch it with an ally panel.Two years ago I completely
restored one myself and really wanted an auto in it,but the spare wheel bit stopped me.I had the spare wheel hole fibreglassed closed and made it into
an on board esky.When I put the body on the pan,sitting in it felt weird with with side too low.Made a 75mm lift kit-fixed that problem,but also gave
me plenty of clearance for an IRS conversion.Too late.If your buggy is on a shortened pan,the only issue will be the gear change cable will be too
long.I know you can have a new one made.The one in my Oval could be 100mm shorter.It's too far forward.My Hotrod that I am doing now,I have made the
wheel base 150mm longer,so the gear shifter is in a perfect position on the centre tunnel.Good luck with your project
I did one in a beetle back in about 1981. The box and IRS was type 3 wagon back then.
My wife thinks an auto would be ideal.
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| posted on August 10th, 2019 at 12:50 PM |
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
I was up ta Matt Berry's shop today discussing the project. I may hold off on the auto in the short term as I don't want it to become a never ending
story.
I think step one will be to get the IRS back end installed, but keep it manual initially. Matt suggested I may need to consider a gruntier engine to
run the auto, so that may be a engine/trans conversion in one hit.
I've got disc brake conversion kits with wide 5 patter to go on. As it turned out, the swing axle kit was out of stock so I got the IRS kit as I was
going to modify it. Now I won't have to.
Can I post pics directly in here?
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| posted on August 10th, 2019 at 02:06 PM |
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You won't need anything "gruntier" than came in a Type 3.You have only a fraction of the weight.So anything around 1600cc should do just fine.I am
doing an auto conversion into a 64 Bus at the moment.Took the engine and trans from a Type3 wagon that I drove some years ago-just before it was
parked up.I thought that it was quite "grunty" when I drove it.I have just done a freshen up on the engine and waiting for the owner to take the
auto away to have it rebuilt.Did the IRS conversion using the Type3 stuff,but I had to make the jigs for welding in the pivot boxes.
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| posted on August 10th, 2019 at 08:00 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by nbturbo
You won't need anything "gruntier" than came in a Type 3.You have only a fraction of the weight.So anything around 1600cc should do just fine.I am
doing an auto conversion into a 64 Bus at the moment.Took the engine and trans from a Type3 wagon that I drove some years ago-just before it was
parked up.I thought that it was quite "grunty" when I drove it.I have just done a freshen up on the engine and waiting for the owner to take the
auto away to have it rebuilt.Did the IRS conversion using the Type3 stuff,but I had to make the jigs for welding in the pivot boxes.
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I'll talk to Aaron and see what he thinks. I agree on the weight thing. In fact it may require a custom torque converter due to no weight.
Thanks again for the advice, it's much appreciated.
The other concern of course is finding the parts. I'll need to find a T3 box, shifter etc etc....
Do you have any surplus?.... It looks like everything of yours runs auto's...
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