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 posted on November 6th, 2003 at 09:09 AM |
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Stock 2l kombi camper "performance"???
I have an almost stock 2l kombi engine which was reconditioned about 12k ago. It's in a camper conversion. The only non-stock component is the
progressive Weber carb. What I want to know is what performance I should expect (I realise that performance and kombi are almost a contradiction in
terms!). Currently, it is close to flat out maintaining 100 kmh with 2 people and camping gear in it (and I don't take that much stuff!) and has
to go down to at least 3rd up most hills. Is this "normal"??
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 09:32 AM |
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Well
You are similar to me
Daisy had a rebuilt 2L with stock carbs about a year ago.
It does have a CB cam in there but otherwise stock. She is an auto though.
We just came back from a 2,000 km trip out to Nyngan, Parkes etc.
2 adults, 3 kids (7 - 14) a heap of gear. ( couple of tents, sleeping bags, fire wood, food, table, gas bottles, clothes - 2 weeks worth)
We cruised on 95km. 8km/L over all
Yes most things (read all) over took us. I could easily have taken it to 100 but over that.......we would have been pushing it.
I have to go back to 1st (3 speed auto) going up Lapstone or Mt Victoria from the west
I wouldnt say struggling to hold that speed but i dont think you would sit on an inclined gradient @ 130.
Just make sure your carb is fully opening.
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 01:44 PM |
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Sounds about normal. Andy's motor is getting quit tyred now (stock 2L). I can sit on 100 fine, but loose speed very quickly on hills, and have to
change back on long hills.
If your driving it hard, try to watch temps a bit as type 4 motors will over heat quickly when pushed hard.
Happy busin'
Andy
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 01:47 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mnsKmobi
Currently, it is close to flat out maintaining 100 kmh with 2 people and camping gear in it (and I don't take that much stuff!) and has to go
down to at least 3rd up most hills. Is this "normal"??
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I can hold 100 kph at about 2/3 throttle on the flat two up with normal range of spares on board, and I think the Doka is probably less aerodynamic
than a Kombi. Down to third only on steep or seriously long climbs. It's worth noting (and has been noted elsewhere) that at 100 kph a Kombi is
slurping fuel at a prodigious rate. I would think from you description that a bit of fine tuning might give an improvement.
hth
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 05:47 PM |
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Yeah my old girl is about the same, she will hold 110 if pushed, but Kombi's hate hills, dual dells, larger valve heads and extractors, and she
will start to breathe, properly. The proggressive has a bit of a flat spot and if ya dont keep the revs up, it will bog down a bit if you change
slow, or too late, change down a little earlier on the steep hills. Rob....
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 05:54 PM |
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Yeah that sounds absolutley correct, though I got the old girl up to 125km/h through the Polly pipe in Perth  That was a blast !!!
But I would say a 'comfy' top speed would be about 80km/h before I start noticing a strain on her.
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 06:55 PM |
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I don't wish to be rude,
But take that progressive Weber and throw it as far down the back yard as you can, and fit the standard twin carbs back on. Rebuild them if they need
it.
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 07:04 PM |
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heh heh heh
the old prog debate!
You either love that carb or dispise it with venom
Personally i dont mine em. Had good prformance out of one on a 1600 and 1776 type 1 motor.
Seems they do hate the cold though. I went 18mths in Sydney without heat risers and no probs, so........
They can be bought a lot cheaper than a set of PDSIT's though.
If you are going to change go Weber or Dels. Not much more or may be the same price and more performance.
A know someone with a 2.3? (105 x 66) Dells etc and it will pull up hills at 130!
Do you WANT to go faster???
Barry
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 08:10 PM |
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YYeeessshhhhh.....
Who wants to drive a standard Kombi over 100kph anyway?? It's fine until you hit a corner or get a good side breeze.
:o :o :o
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 08:17 PM |
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Man you haven't lived till you've had your Kombi speedo needle pointing at the K. yee haa , Chris knows too.
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| posted on November 6th, 2003 at 11:25 PM |
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Dave,
I think the description under you name fits
If I want to see the needle there on my speedo, I'll pull the glass off and move it by hand thanks :P
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| posted on November 7th, 2003 at 05:28 AM |
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I agree with blue, I have a proggressive on mine, it dose have a slight flat spot, but it is lot better than the hassels I had with the worn out twin
solex's, although I live in far northern NSW and it never gets really cold up here. for someone living in Melbourne, I would say it would not be
the best option! you could make it work, but why bother.
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| posted on November 7th, 2003 at 09:25 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Dave Becker
Man you haven't lived till you've had your Kombi speedo needle pointing at the K. yee haa , Chris knows too.
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I reckon! the only reason I keep breathing is knowing that someday I will be able to do it again. Fast kombis are the ultimate highway pursuit
vehicle.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
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| posted on November 7th, 2003 at 12:09 PM |
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Geez Barry, 1st gear up Lapstone hill?
you musty have the only vehicle mine would overtake
on our 7000k trip which started off at 100 to 110kmh fuel consumption was about 21mpg, when forced back to sitting on 80kmh due to impending motor
destruction, fuel consumption was 25, 26 mpg personally I would go for 100kmh & spend the money on fuel 
our standard engine will cruise 110, but oil temp is my issue
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| posted on November 7th, 2003 at 12:26 PM |
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My twin cab has a 2 litre with twin del's and extractors. It will do 130k/hr no worries, but my problem is the temperature goes up and as a
result have to back off back to 100.
It will drive all day at 100k/hr and take on most hills with no need to change down gears.
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| posted on November 7th, 2003 at 02:27 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 72TWINCAB
My twin cab has a 2 litre with twin del's and extractors. It will do 130k/hr no worries, but my problem is the temperature goes up and as a
result have to back off back to 100.
It will drive all day at 100k/hr and take on most hills with no need to change down gears.
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Thanks for all the replies, everybody.
72TWINCAB, What are the details on the extractors?
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| posted on November 7th, 2003 at 06:46 PM |
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Check the blurr on that 1/10 digit on the odometer.
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