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posted on November 11th, 2003 at 07:12 PM
23 window splitty roof....?


howdy ppls just wondering if someone can tell me the chances of getting a roof of a 23 window bus are?? i know they are a rare thing nowdays but how rare exactly?
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posted on November 11th, 2003 at 07:58 PM


I am afraid you would have no chance???
If some one had one they would restore the whole bus no matter the condition,
I doubt you could even get one from overseas.

Could be proven wrong
but with 23 window buses demanding about $50-$70k in good condition and at least $15K for a total resto I dont like your chances.

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posted on November 11th, 2003 at 08:05 PM


that's what i was scared of i just needed it confirmed. thanks.
does anyone know of similar windows to these ones?




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posted on November 11th, 2003 at 08:45 PM


Check your local Land Rover Discovery wrecker. Also the rear quarters off early Land Cruisers. I don't know of anyone who has done it, but have seen reports on the forum of people contemplating this type of modification.

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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 07:09 AM


someone is making skylight window sections as replacement panels.
you just need 8 of them and weld them in. sounds easy :thumb
don't know about the sunroof though.




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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 10:37 AM


21 window is the same isnt it? Not that your going to find one of those either, but you never know...

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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 11:32 AM


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21 window is the same isnt it? Not that your going to find one of those either, but you never know...

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Same but less windows? :D:D:D
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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 11:52 AM


Nah, the 2 less windows are in the rear corners. The roof (above the rain gutter) is the same. They both have 8 sky lights and the sunroof! Am I correct people!

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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 12:36 PM


Spot on Nectar,
maybe you could put a couple of skylight windows in the bug!
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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 12:44 PM


Hmm...let me think......


NO!!!! It already has enough of the roof missing, without being a vert!

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posted on November 12th, 2003 at 08:21 PM


yes this is what im after,can you put in skylights sunroof,what supports do you need?seen one on samba site ages ago panel with delux roof,anyone done this,might be cheaper than importing if you want a customstyle split....any info would be grat cheers dudes
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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 07:37 AM


New roof....:thumb

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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 07:56 AM


mags before the car is anywhere near being finished-----only in america!
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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 08:33 AM


Only in America? I had 6 wheels b I even bought the bug! best way to do it, get all parts then start the build! Besides, the size of those wheels will need some serious work to get any sort of clearence, better now than after its finished!

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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 09:41 AM
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6 wheels? is that all? I've got three sets of wheels and i've only just pulled the windows out of the bus. Definitely the best way to go



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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 10:08 AM


Dave from Creative-engineering in the UK recently converted an ambulance into a 21 window deluxe. I think he has templates to make the framing for the windows. I'll have to re-read the article, or you could ask him if he sells these sections yet. He has all sorts of other sheet metal that he's selling, so might be able to make up something for you. Wouldn't hurt to ask, and it would be rust free too!
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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 10:29 AM


Chris, That was B4 I bought the car! Now I have 8! But the 6's are sold, so.....
Creative also have a full Airbag set up they sell, looks real good Quality!

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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 02:20 PM


you guys are crazy!!!!
spend more money on wheels then the car!!
but wheels do make a big difference!
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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 02:35 PM


I had a vision for the car, and Fuchs being as rare as they are, you got to grab them when you can. I knew from b4 I bought a bug, that it would have either Stockies or fuchs. I have also had fender guides/poles, breezies, numourous badges, fog lights, mirror (which i now wont use!) tail lights, curb feelers, and other things I cant think of, way b4 I had the car.
Oh and beleive me the wheels aint no where near what the car owes me!

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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 04:21 PM


hey
yer i brought fuchs before i had my car but they aint any special wheels in the way of rare wheels if u understand what im saying??? i mean isnt getting the roof on and paint on and interior etc you understand what im saying???
anyway hes a person with too much mo0ney for my liking :P
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posted on November 13th, 2003 at 08:31 PM
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Yes you can buy the roof window sections but I think that there only good as repair sections as you really need the inner skin of the roof which has the pressings for the inside of the windows and also has the pressing for the inner part of the sunroof hole, Even the 15 windows had the same inner section as it relied on the sunroof hole part but without the holes cut for the windows on the outer skin of the roof.

I'm sure you could let-in some of the windows sections into your roof but the strenght of the roof skin could be a problem without the inner part/reinforcement panel also the window seal might not seal as the lip/flange would only be half as thick. This is not good as 23/21 roof window buses are prone to leaking at the best of time

Unity was that you driving down chaple last wednesday morning in your notch I was in the white bus passing that nice black bug that was parked up

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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 08:38 AM


K-Kid, HAve you got 15X4.5's? If so you will know how rare they are! After I have bought mine, I still havent come across any other "early" fuchs. you can get the "newer" flatter style no problems, but the earlies are heaps harder to find! Too Much money, no way, I basically spend all my money on this car!

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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 09:27 AM


Unity,

I know how rare those are, I would love to find some for my van.
The only time I've come across some was when I found a set of 5 (3 x 4.5in & 2 x 6in), and they wanted $2000 with caps and nuts!
I missed out on that and have kicked myself ever since.
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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 10:22 AM


You just got to be ready to buy when they come up...you cant afford to think about it, because someone else will pounce on them! But dont kick yourself over it, they will come up again!

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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 10:27 AM


Mr Bubble head, Yes that was me down chaps! That black bug is there every now and then, its very nice, but I wonder why they have 2 sets of indicators on the front? It was the early 60's narrow ones on the top of the guards, and harley bullets on the bumpers! Weird!

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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 12:49 PM
the van up there!


going back to the van up there. I don'tthink there's another way he could have done it. The're Porsche rims on there with a narrowed front end and all the sills replaced already. What else could he roll it on?



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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 01:15 PM


I'm sure that he's the one running an air ride kit as well, makes sense to do a mock-up to make sure everything fits before painting.
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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 01:23 PM


I think if your going a stock wheel or something similar, and if is going to be stock height or a little lowered, its cool to worry about the wheels later on, but when you are going to extremes, you must do a fit up to see if its all going to go together the way it should. When going as low as that bus, you need to raise wheel wells and widen them for clearence! There is no point Clearencing stock wheels, when your going something totally different!

Chris what bus you got? Or is that the pmg red bus Dean has got?

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posted on November 14th, 2003 at 02:31 PM


i did have some early fuchs they where in 14x 5's i think but have sold them know....
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