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 posted on December 17th, 2002 at 10:41 AM |
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Using the forum to advertise companies.
I posted the following earlier in a thread about parts wanted... thought it should stand alone as a topic for discussion.
[snip]
For christ's sake... does every reply have to be an ADVERTISMENT for VVDS?
Sure they have all the bits and pieces but people are asking here most the time cause they want to keep the cash flowing around with people doing
projects. I'd rather buy something someone doesn't need and get them closer to finishing a project if I can before going to a shop.
I've looked at four posts this morning and all of them have said go to Campsie.
Is this a forum for enthusuasts or free advertising for a company?
[snip]
If people wanted to purchase from a business, they know who and where they are. They would be ringing shops not asking fellow enthusiasts.
The occassional mention of companies is helpful - when people are looking for specialist advice or services. But the constant reply of X or Y has them
often along with price and an urging to purchase from them is offensive.
If this is going to continue as a common practice then these companies should be sponsoring the forum as recognition of the free advertising they are
getting.
Matt
[Edited on 17-12-2002 by HotRodMatt]
[Edited on 17-12-2002 by HotRodMatt]
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 10:45 AM |
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I 2nd that!:o
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 10:58 AM |
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I disagree.
If i am looking for a "Bit" and ask here then anyone with said "Bit" has the opportunity to yell out. If they dont what am I
supposed to do ? start ringing round ?
I (and many other people on the site) am new(ish) to VWs' and simply dont know of all the suppliers / what they stock and which ones are good to
deal with.
Surley the one of the purposes of this site is to share information :thumb
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 01:18 PM |
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Matt
nice to have you back on the forum youve been GONE for a while.
Adz n Fatboy thanks for that,,, some people view things differently. no problems i will continue to advise people who may not be aware of various VW
shops that have items available.
and your right theres a lot of NEW people around, and just getting into different cars
Surley one of the purposes of this site is to share information kiss
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 01:27 PM |
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I will step in too - i dont see a problem. Someone has missed something if they are asking and havent rung round themselves.
eg - i am after some performance T4 parts.
No probs - bit vague the question, but whats the problem directing him to someone that specialises in these things.
I was aftert some parts for Daisy the Vanagon....yep ended up at Campsie raiding what Boris had stashed in a couple vans he had lying round.
Anyone who reads STF wants the likes of John C and (heaven forbid Jake) to say - Aircooled.net sells em
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Favorite Businesses... We all Have them..
I don't really see a problem , but I think someone should say Mick at Mick Motors has the part.... but ALAS probably No one knows if He has the
part or not....
and YES !! I can see the other side ...... too..
Most of Us are looking for Bargains .. and if We want to buy from a Business... We will probably just ring them and NOT mention it on here at
all... Thats what I do anyway ..... I suppose Most of Us have Our Favorite VW shops & most of Us have a list of Businesses We will never go
near again... LOL...
I usually email Mick & Christine.... in Brissy
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 04:58 PM |
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I've used Mick Motors and found them excellent. They even sent the parts when I didn't send them enough cash - no problem I'll be using
them again soon.
I don't have a problem to the occasional pointer to other companies, but I'd rather see those companies offer sponsorship to the forum, and
get an ad placed here in return. I have no idea about the politics of sponsorship, but I see no reason why we can't have more than one
sponsor.
I do see a problem with repeated posts about VW suppliers who are not sponsors. Mick pays for the privilege, why should other
suppliers get advertising for free?
Kruizin Kol
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 07:28 PM |
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My point exactly Kruizin.
I am in no way dissing VVWS. I've bought and will buy in the future from them.
Just don't believe that any one company should keep being mentioned all the time with almost every request/query that goes on the list.
Maybe anyone that rings a dealer from here should tell 'em where they got the info and suggest that if they sponsored they would probably get a
whole lot of business from members.
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| posted on December 17th, 2002 at 07:34 PM |
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time for a new section!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why not have a page with a list of the business's everywhere around australia and write a short bit in what
they specialize in and they contact details!!!! easist way i think!!!!
cheers
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 06:51 AM |
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Col
Ive been at Brad ( for about 6 months) to formalize the terms n conditions in a letter, but he was waiting for Jim etc etc etc....
VVDS will be a sponsor when the terms are announced.
and i suspose a few other companies for that matter. Like Volkspower in Mel where EMPI works, perhaps even V force in Sydney.
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:11 AM |
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HotRodMatt " Maybe anyone that rings a dealer from here should tell 'em where they got the info and suggest that if they sponsored they
would probably get a whole lot of business from members."
Great Idea. I have contacted the peopl who make POR 15 and requested a catalogue. They have a area to let them know how you found their website. So I
suggest everyone looking for POR 15 order a catalogue and mention this forum and its sponsership.
website for por 15 is http://www.ppc.au.com
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 11:08 AM |
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I was getting annoyed with the much to common
call XXXX they have it ..........
after every part request.
good to see the free advertising is turning into sponsorship
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 02:49 PM |
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posted by vw54
Like Volkspower in Mel where EMPI works, perhaps even V force in Sydney.
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difference here is/was that i had no idea empi worked for volkspower... but after most wanted posts came up he would say, "I have one call
me." (i honestly thought he was just some insane collector that had everything) Nothing wrong with that...
i spose if there was no mention of a campany name then it wouldn't be advertising.. just referring.
just a thought.
To the admins though... i reckon we should have more banners for Micks Motors, the guy sponsors the site and run a really good business (i have bought
from there many a time, plus other places (won't mention names!  ))
but i think he should get alot more coverage for his sponsorship.. no use being a silent spnsor.
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 03:52 PM |
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VVDS
Dave,
Why haven't VVDS got a proper website? I'm sure Boris gets thousands of petty calls (have you got a grommet for a ... etc) that they answer
every day! I think we need a good supplier website in Australia that at least displays prices and stock availability. They are everywhere else!
Cheers
Steve
P.S I don't mind the plugs, at least it increases Daves post count!?!
[Edited on 18-12-2002 by matara]
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 04:55 PM |
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Steve i often wondered how my post count went up so quick
yes he has one http://www.vintageveedub.com.au/ but like every thing it
takes time n effort.
Ive been hounding him for ages to get some information together. BUT
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 05:32 PM |
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That might be the new years project then Dave? http://www.get_of_my_arse_and_ do_it.com.au
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I have even received parts without sending any money at Micks Motors...
Has anyone found that [NOT counting DAVE] at V V D S, ????
and also I thought EMPI was selling his own parts.... not Volkspowers..... Maybe He will have to ring a bell like John Laws !!! So We can tell the
difference between retail & a Bargain....
What do others think... Sorry I haven't read the other threads have been out all afternoon... Lee - A Proud Supporter of Micks Motors... and I
have NO connection with Mick motors and have never met Him or Christine....
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Good One Rhys.... I am Satisfied-1-2-3-4-5-6
Instead of ALL of us going to Campsie... how about looking at Rhys suggestion... I'm not sure how it would work... but Maybe We could list what
We have bought and the price charged... or just a quick note of Where We have spent out hard earned cash.... and If We WERE satisfied-Not
Satisfied-etc.... or - Never go back again.... etc...
What do You all think AVD members .... :bounce:bounce:bounce
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 07:51 PM |
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How about posting an "Etiquette" Guide it could advise people on the prefered method of buying parts such as:
1. Post a request for parts and purchase from any forum member who has it.
2. If no forum member has it contact one of the sponsers (I'm assuming there will be more than one)
3. If 1 & 2 dont give you a result contact any of the other suppliers that people reply with in step 1.
If this were posted as a seperate area then we can all post an "I agree" message under it.
This would show our current sponsor that we are going to support them in return for the sponsorship and also if prospective sponsors see a list of 500
customers who have pledged to activley seek to purchase from them it would be a big incentive.
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I think its all just a bit of a whinge. Coming from me that must mean something since I am usually the first person to get on the soap box to have a
petty whinge.
I'd much rather read (in black type) that VVDS stocks whatever than to wade through some garbage about dipping my chains in hot dripping (a jar
of oil would do nicely, no farting around heating) or being forced to imagine the colour scheme on someones desktop which I imagine looks like Dave
Birchalls toilet bowl after a long night on the crownies or wishing ones self happy birthday or ....
Just get your stuff from wherever is convenient for you. I mean what is the alternative when someone says "where do you get it?" Do we have
to list every supplier in Australia? I think that would be interesting. From now on it will be "you can get it from VVDS but then you can also
get it from Dak Dak Motors, House of Hitler, Dodgy Dans Deutchland Direct ....... ad nauseum"
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:08 PM |
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mmm......... Cant remember seeing an Ad for a nauseum where would I get one of those :P
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:10 PM |
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House of Hitler LMAO. Thats bloody funny.
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:28 PM |
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How did all this start again?
I was beginning to think it was a post I did, being in my usual paranoid state but I think I found the start of it. I'm not slow!!
We're all after parts of some discription pretty mcuh all the time. Some needed immediately, some in preparation for work. Somehow I think
sourcing 'the right part at the best price' is all part of it all.
Agreed as yet Mick Motor's is the only one willing to support us Vee Dubb junkies with sponsorship, a champion!!!!!
We do need to support onshore businesses but the internet is having a huge impact across many retail areas, it is real competition and Australian
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:48 PM |
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oK i am too bloody lazy to ring Mick but does he sell 2nd hand parts?
I can only gather from Empi that Volks whatever does, I know Boris has a crap load of junkers sitting out the front. Yep i am a guilty party here i
push my beer mates at V Force cause they have crap all over the place.
What i am saying is people who sell new stuff .... well we all know that, but shops that have junk about that is different. Just cause Doris or Fred
had one last week dont mean they have it next week.
Yep Empi does it himself and it prolly escapes notice that way ( and i aint complaining) but when i am after the tracks for the middle seats for Daisy
i dont care who has it ... shop, church, govt department or grand mother ....cause i know i cant buy it new.
This is boring
Can we talk about beers
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:50 PM |
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What your prefered brew?? |
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:56 PM |
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What ya offering?
Certainly not knocking back any Crown. But gotta admit i like Old. Actually i found Tooheys(?) old / brown..... that is nice!
:bounce
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 08:57 PM |
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Toohey's Old is good:thumb |
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Hey..... yep OLD is good!...... you tried this Brown? is good too.
New...:puke
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 10:00 PM |
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Coopers Sparkling Ale - A nice, crisp, naturally brewed beer. :thumb
Kruizin Kol
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| posted on December 18th, 2002 at 10:01 PM |
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The forum and sponsorship
Righto then this is sort of my fault.
I have been trying to get a sponsorship deal out of Jim as he was the " Forum God / Credator " After many many months I have been unable to
do this.
I did not wish to setup teh sponsorship deal as I have close links with several businesses and didn't wish to create any issues ( a strang idea,
for those who know me )
Anyway enough is enough. I will type up and post on teh forum tonight what the proposed deal is. It will remain there for comment of teh members for
the next 72 hours after which time it will be modified if required then become fact.
I have looked into all the relevant issues and will be running it through the Manx Dune Buggy Club Books. This is because they are an inc club and it
is the easiest legal way to do it. For their trouble they will receive a commision. This will cover the hassles of doing it.
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