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 68AutoBug
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How to beat Speed Cameras....
You just mount Your Number Plates onto a piece of Aluminium and add hinges to the top of it... then bolt the hinges as low as You Can... under
the bumper is ideal.... Now when You reach approx 59kmh the air pushes the front number plate under the car, and the Air catches the rear one &
it goes vertical.... You may need a bit of experimentation there... to get it 100%... Maybe with the rear number plare, You should add plastic spacers
so that the bottom of the plate is about 50mm from the aluminium sheet. Just to make sure the Camera can't see Your number....
Naturally this Modification will work much better at 100+ KMH.....  :o Lee
PS.. If there are any Police officers reading this Posting ... this modification can only be used on Off Road Vehicles ....and after sunset in
California.. or on the 30th February in Scone Shire....
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| posted on December 19th, 2002 at 05:04 PM |
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the one time i was speeding in my ex kombi was when i was driving around aus, i was in brisvegas the speed camera went flash i went shit ,i didnt get
a fine because the angle of the camera took a photo of the spare wheel mounted on the bullbar. another way is not to speed besides my kombi doesnt go
over the limit
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| posted on December 19th, 2002 at 05:57 PM |
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The easiest way to beat the speeding fines is............NOT TO EXCEED THE SPEED LIMIT. I have used this fantastic theory for many years & it
works!!!!! It costs nothing, requires no instalation & works for EVERYONE & all models......
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Sorry long and potentially boring
Someone had to say It suppose.
However your in SA, here in Vic we have a wonderful and new system where an unsigned road that was 60 can be changed to 50 without posting new 50k
signs and you can be booked for doing 60.
The official answer is "If there are no signs and your not sure then do 50" ??
I actually discovered the source of these kinds of problems by talking to a Politician.
The following was his opinion.
The basic jist is that to the only way to "Get On" as a Poli is to write legislation.
It doesn't matter whether your Lib. Lab. whatever.
So you use statistics to say that reducing the speed limit by 10kph will save x number of lives. You can prove anything with stats (Even that life on
earth doesn't exist) Immeadiatly you produce your figures nobody can question them without looking like a complete B'stard to their
electorate (Dont they care about saving lives)
Indeed the only way anyone could object is the cost of resigning the Rds, so the poli says that theirs no need to.
So the legislation gets passed some Poli gets to put it on their resume and we all get screwed. The best bit is, even if the rd toll doesn't
reduce the poli can "Imagine how bad it would of been".
The truly horrendous bit is that we were given an example of 10 roads with high accindent figures yet NONE of these Rds had theior limits reduced.
Legislation for the sake of legislation, long live politics.
BTW the formula for proving that life doesn't / cant exist on earth is:
Number of inhabited planets / Number of UNinhabited planets = average number of inhabited planets.
This means 1 / (an infinate number) = 0
Therefore none of you lot exist and neither do I so I couldn't be speeding.
Dont think I'll try that in court though:P
[Edited on 19-12-2002 by fatboy]
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| posted on December 20th, 2002 at 10:06 AM |
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I have seen numberplate holders that have a special contact adhesive that only allows the numberplate to be seen from behind (or in front) but any
photographic light coming from the side totally whites out the plate. This contact can only be bought in the US though apparently.
Personally I've found that just sticking to the speed limit works just fine, and if you cant do that buy a baja and run a 1300cc in it. 50 is a
comfortable speed where everyone gets a good glance as you dak past.
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| posted on December 20th, 2002 at 06:49 PM |
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Bravo Green T4.
I know there are instances where it is really unfair, but you can't really have too many exceptions to the law, otherwise everyone will try to
take that way out (like people who 'loosely' claim they need a license for their job after they've lost it). Having said that, I
ocassionly speed (more when I was younger) - mostly from waning concentration when I just haven't looked at the speedo in the last 20s, and when
I got/get caught I just grinned and beared it , as it was me at fault. Broadcasting the locations of speed cameras is absolute shit. If you want to
speed, you deserve to ocassionly get caught (which will eventually slow you down) and not have help to allow you to do it more often without the
consequences.
Just the 2c worth of my opinion, so if you differ don't take it too harshley.
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| posted on December 20th, 2002 at 11:21 PM |
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Hi
I think the whole speed thing is overated as a cause for the high road toll. The only reason they use the cameras is because if you cross the speed
limit you get your photo taken. When they invent dickhead detectors they will reduce the road toll. NSW had the perfect chance to have dickhead
detectors when they had PIGS IN SPACE (not yelling, talking in deep echo type voice) aka police spotter planes. They could have spotted all the
wankers that impead trafiic flow, were overtaking at bad spots etc. Enforcing proper driving is just to dam hard for them. Did you know Bob Carr has
never had a liscense? Talk about the limo left. The only way I see to fix the problem is proper training & testing and HP limits on young
drivers.
I nearly had my bug smashed the other day buy a youg chick in a new Diahatshit. She must have had her brakes locked up for about 200 metres in the wet
and just stopped before running into me, I was in a traffic quere, she was in the lane next to me and vearing towards me, the silly part was she had
about 6 car spaces in her lane before the traffic was stopped.
Has anyone been through the M5 tunnel in Sydney, everyone is so busy looking at thier speedos that they dont see the traffic stopping so there are
lots nose 2 tails stacks in there. And the exit lanes for Kingsgrove & Bexley are in the righthand lanes, did they get the blue prints from the
US?
Does anyone remember the road saftey add where the 2 kids in a Laser I think were driving along and speeding, not causing anyone any harm until the
dickhead in a Falcon pulled out between a line a banked up cars. What does the add say about the Falcon driver? Nothing.
If you have young drivers in your family make them do an advanced driver course, I can recommend Ian Luff in Sydney, I have sent two nephews to him so
far and I'm very happy with the results.
1302Steve
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 05:57 AM |
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IQ tests for a licence would help....
But seriously, everyone should do 2 years on a bike before they are allowed to have a car licence.
A biker (at least an old one like me), has more respect for the road, takes better care of his machine(especially tyres), drives more defensively
& checks his mirrors more often than 90% of drivers.
But have a look at the regulations to get a bike licence.
You WILL do a rider training course.
You WILL ride a limited capacity machine for 2 years. (Although the manufacturers have got around that one by making the 250's nothing less than
a projectile).
You WILL NOT double, unless the pillion passenger holds a "black" licence.
How many of the young people that have been killed in NSW this year would be alive if the driver was not allowed to have them in the car, or adversly
if the driver had no one to "show off" to?
The image that stays in my head from this year is a car load of teenagers killed when a 4x4 hit a tree that hard the body was sheered off the chasis,
from back to front. How fast are you going to do that?
As to the original subect; Do the speed limit. How much easier does it get?
Just do what I do.
Give yourself plenty of time, then you can take your time.
I don't give people an ETA, & I don't wear a watch. I'll be there when I get there.
It's kept me alive for 23 years on the road so far.....
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 06:02 AM |
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Even simpler soloution:
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 10:31 AM |
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My god, a post from Spook that I agree with. 
Nothing's too important that it can't wait an extra few minutes.
A nice by product of my lack of speeding is that I tend to get faaabulous fuel economy. But with the turbo, I can't help but get to the speed
limit fairly quickly. It'd be a crime not to enjoy the dynamic benefits of the turbo.
When I'm in my Type 3, I'm too scared to go fast enough for points to be taken off. I got to 60 mph the other day on the freeway and I was
crapping myself. Lucky for me on the same trip- I was driving next to an unmarked cop car in an area where everyone "speeds" - the bit at
the bottom of the Westgate bridge where it turns from 80 to 100. I was still doing 50 mph at the 100 sign.
What I hate about the cameras though is that they're never placed on back roads. I want them on the two previous streets that I lived on and the
road I work on right now. They'd make an absolute fortune as well as really help reduce pedestrian and in my Greebo's case, feline injuries.
But no, they want zillions of dollars from speeding in places that statistically are the safest roads in the state (by kilometers travelled, cars per
day, and by absolute numbers of serious or fatal accidents).
When the govts start trying to seriously address the stupid driver problem (see Spook's post on driver education), and in Victoria, implement
mandatory annual road safety checks like everywhere else, I'll listen to them. But until then...
Andrew
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 02:58 PM |
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Destruction of Red light cameras is not the answer (guess who pays for the replacement), and if you think it's OK to run red lights, just ask
someone who's been T-Boned by one.....or better still, picture that happening to you.
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 08:43 PM |
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spray hair spray on your number plate
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 09:06 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by sleepe3
Speed does not kill (this is an advertising slogan although by now everyone seems to regard it as "The Truth"
Bad driving can kill
Stupidity can kill
Being unlucky can kill
Speed camera's are revenue generating devices not saftey devices (ask yourself what would happen if the road toll dropped dramatically, would
they get rid of them?)
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exactly...
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 09:10 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Green T4
Destruction of Red light cameras is not the answer
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true, but it's bloody funny and is a good start
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 09:16 PM |
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Red light cameras are OK. But the wheelie bin camera is a joke. Blatant money grabbing.
Try driving a 40yo VW in heavy traffic in a major city and you learn a bit about defensive driving. It has slowed me down a lot and alerted me to some
bad habits I had developed by driving modern "safe" cars.
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| posted on December 21st, 2002 at 09:46 PM |
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Drive one of these, and the camera won't take any notice of You....
I would like to SEE the speed limit upped by 10kmh on a few long weekends to see what would happen.... If I drive on the New England Highway at 100kms
I will be overtaken by everyone including Double B semis etc.... and FIXED Speed cameras only slow You down for 100 meters...or so.... the hand held
radar & police Radar highway patrol cars are another story....
I believe the speed limits on Our highways and expressways are too slow for the distances We have to travel....
Points and Fines.... do NOT fix the problem, A lot of them don't pay the fines, and others still keep driving without a licence... or rego or 3rd
party or insurance...... and if they run into You... Big problem... A friend has been run into twice in shopping centre car parks.... took the
owners of the cars to court... they just said "I don't have the money to pay for repairs to the other car" and thats it...
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I have been driving for 26 years still a unblemished record.I not saying I am a angel I have broken limits and will continue to when the need
arrives(you know the ones doing 80k in single lanes hit the doubles they are up to 130k and will not let you pass them)I live near the Pacific hwy and
at this time of year I seldom hit the road because of what I have seen when I was driving for work(40000k plus in work truck and another 30000k in
private) There are some total idiots out there.I know most of the main roads from Maclean north to tweed ,south to kemspy and out to moree.I have seen
more accidents then I like. Fixed speed cameras are a joke the signs tell you they are there only a fool or someone who shouldnot be driving is going
to speed. Sorry people the only solution really is behave and slow down if you don,t know the road or wet conditions:rudolf
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I think the point about speed not killing is fair if you just mean speed alone. The German autobahns have no speed linits (as I'm sure you know)
and are generally fairly safe.
I don't know about there, but here fixed cameras just induce bad driving. We live near a road which had a 70 limit, this was reduced to 40 MPh
and had a camera put on it. Everyone local just goes at 50 to 60 then slams on the anchors to go through the camera. Fine if you know it's there,
but if you don't you could (and it has happened) crash into the braking cars etc.
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| posted on December 22nd, 2002 at 05:52 AM |
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The autobahn was designed that way.
Here is the land of OZ, our mighty highways follow the old bullock trails & haven't been much improved other than being sealed.
Mostly....
Autobug mentions the New England highway.
Yes, parts of that could have the speed limit raised. Most of it could not.
Let me take you from Newcastle to Werris Creek.
Start from Sandgate Cemetery. Double lane, dual carriage way, all the way to Rutherford. 80 or 90 kph most of the time. No real problem there.
Rutherford to Branxton, single lane each way with 3 overtaking lanes. One of those begining in a 60 section.
The 20km section from Branxton to Singleton. Half is double lane, dual carriageway. Unfortunately the other half isn't. The section from
Ravensworth to Lidell power station should be condemned.
Power station to the Draytons turn off, dual lanes north, single lane south. Single lane from there to Muswellbrook.
Muswellbrook through Aberdeen to Scone & on to Wingen, single lane with the obligatory overtaking lanes. Plus the odd trap.110 through the S Scone
side of Aberdeen? I wouldn't like to try it. Miss that one you land on the railway line. Miss the S at Wingen & you smack into a rock wall
(either direction).
Wingen to Blanford is a goat track. Remember at this point, we are on a national highway!
Blanford to Murrurundi is reasonable, although single lane. But the real trap here is, the New England highway at Murrurundi faces dead east/west. An
interesting situation at sunrise or sunset, depending on direction of travel.
Then you get the mighty "NEW" work over the Liverpool range to Kankool. Double lane, dual carriage way. Brilliant as long as your going UP
hill. Down either side & the trucks have destroyed it.
7 years old & it's f#cked.
Kancool to Willow Tree, single lane & thats where I turn off.
Werris Creek road I won't go into other than to say, make sure your suspension is good.
Point is, our roads(at least in NSW) are rooted, even the newer ones. Years ago they were out patching the F3 BEFORE they opened it.
You can't remotely compare anything we have to the autobahn.
[Edited on 21-12-2002 by Spook]
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Spook
The autobahn was designed that way.
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fact is a lot of Autobahn is no better than a dodgy dual carriage way here in the UK, full of holes and braking up... you simply can't go very
fast on a lot of them... it's just the point that they have no upper limit so given the right conditions you can go fast...
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I've never seen the autobahn & as I won't go near an aeroplane, I'm not likely to.....
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
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s3
Hi Sleepy3,long time no hear
from Hazet,
(manta beach buggy)
Merry xmas:tree
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Why are Northern Territory Roads so good? They are built on sand, carry gawd-knows-how-many road trains, dont have the population to tax and pay for
their upkeep, yet the only problem with them is road kill???
Driving from NT into QLD is very scary. The moment you cross the border your continued existence is a lottery. You're still sharing the road with
road trains, yet the width of it goes down to 1 1/2 lanes.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
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I did not get any Speeding fines for about four or five years. Then in August done 67 in 60 zone in the Beetle and then i September 87 in 80 zone in
the Helbus.
I was horrified, the two slowest vehicles I have ever owned, and I got done. I have slowed down now "Wiped off five"
Peter
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