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 Southern Cross
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| posted on June 28th, 2004 at 09:31 PM |
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Mazda Rotary Conversion
Hey guys!
Just wondering if anyone has ever done a rotary conversion?
It will be going into my off road buggy (think sand-rail)
A mate of mine is swapping his 20,000km old 12A rotary out of his RX-7 for a turbo charged 13B.
He is selling it to me for $250, which i think is an unreal price!
so anyway the adaptor plate will not be hard but what do you all reckon it will go like?
my thoughts are that it will go like a bat out of hell! i was originally going to run a VW 1600 twin port, but it only has about 40kw compared to the
85kw that this mazda rotary is supposed to have...
i have driven the RX-7 with this motor in it and it goes well in the car, so should go even better in my lighter buggy...
anyone got any comments or info or advice lol??
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| posted on June 28th, 2004 at 09:33 PM |
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It has been done.. it will definatly go better than a 1600...
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| posted on June 28th, 2004 at 10:03 PM |
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good untill you blow the gear box up ,need a good clutch puck unit I made them at one time .
you may find an adapter plate here just ask in the for sale section read the guide lines first
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| posted on June 29th, 2004 at 12:32 PM |
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Plenty of VW based kit cars (Eurekas) with rotary engines, but the engines don't seem to last though...
http://www.smbaker.com/rail/mazda.html
http://frost.bbboy.net/vwengineconversions
http://shoptalkforums.com/ look in 'conversion perversions'
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| posted on June 29th, 2004 at 12:57 PM |
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This site has the info your looking for
http://www.geocities.com/zenjoe/vw.html
Later EFI rotaries last longer than the earlier carby ones. Like all things their life depends on how modified they are and how you drive it.
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| posted on August 15th, 2004 at 06:56 PM |
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13bt conversion
Hello Guys, I'm well underway with my 13b turbo conversion, i've converted my pan to irs, motor is bolted to g'box and mounted on pan. All going
well so far. It also fits in the engine bay without any cutting to the body.
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| posted on August 15th, 2004 at 08:20 PM |
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There was also a bloke a t Valla with a Black bay Kombi.
Totally wild is gettin somwhere near it.
Rotary motor of some sort with 300+bhp at the wheels.
(I'm a completely converted metric head but you just can't beat the 300bhp tag)
As a bit of trivia, the first of the 350cubic inch monaros were 300bhp in about 1969. The first Falcon GT HOs were similar but I think ford went all
shy and didn't disclose the exact amount.
So that many rampaging horses at the back of your Kombi would be more than a lot interesting.
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| posted on August 15th, 2004 at 09:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 13Beetle
Hello Guys, I'm well underway with my 13b turbo conversion, i've converted my pan to irs, motor is bolted to g'box and mounted on pan. All going
well so far. It also fits in the engine bay without any cutting to the body.
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I dont want to be a wet blanket, but have you spoken to your local rego people about this? In NSW & Qld you cant get a turbo rotary passed by
them.
1302Steve
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| posted on August 16th, 2004 at 08:23 AM |
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Steve is right, I really can't see it being legal. a 13B turbo is classed as a 2.6L turbo for engine conversion purposes, which is too big for a
beetle.
The kombi has a 13B turbo with 350HP at the rear wheels, but it comes under a completely different set of rules, being a kombi and all.
This is essentially the light vehicle rules for QLD and nsw, most other states are similar.
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| posted on August 16th, 2004 at 07:43 PM |
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Hi Guys, I got an approval in principal from Transport SA. They stipulate that i need an engineers report, including brake fade tests, lane change
manouver, Dyno results for motor, and ridigity test. I've got an engineer in Adelaide who is happy to help me achieve this. Brakes continue to be the
biggest black area, I've got type 3 all around at the moment, but the falcon rear disk set up sounds like the go.
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| posted on August 16th, 2004 at 09:49 PM |
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Hi
Good on you, I just would hate to see go to a heap of work for nothing. This approval is vastly different for you guys in SA, than in the Eastern
states, 1/2 your luck.
13o2Steve
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| posted on August 17th, 2004 at 09:50 AM |
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well I'll be...
We'll have to call SA the land of the 13B turbo beetles from now on 
When we finally get australia wide rules the confusion will end 
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| posted on August 17th, 2004 at 04:47 PM |
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hmmmm wat are SA rules like compared to wa?  . maybe i should move over
there and do conversion. then move back over here
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| posted on August 17th, 2004 at 10:15 PM |
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Hi
Sorry about hijaking your post Southern Cross.
1302Steve
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| posted on August 25th, 2004 at 10:54 PM |
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hey Southern cross I'm part the way thru doing the conversion into my 71 bug good to see someone else is attempting it.
Give John sherman a call as he does the kit for this conversion, #07 5537 7770.
do it.... when th e 12a' sgot about 130 hp standard and revs to 9000rpm you wont be able to stop giggling
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| posted on March 5th, 2005 at 12:29 PM |
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13b turbo bug
I have converted my 69 baja to 13b turbo power and i cant believe how the thing flies.
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| posted on March 6th, 2005 at 01:05 AM |
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Remeber guys...I think the man said, this is a 12A going into a sandrail....I don't believe the cars a road car! Do what you want man....Should be a
mover and shaker (ne: breaker)!
Post some pics.
That bus we hear all about...Has anyone actually seen it run? I't love to see it in action! It would give me some idea what to ecpect from my EG33!
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| posted on March 8th, 2005 at 02:52 PM |
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i am new to rotary power, turbo 13btype 3 condor am totally amazed at the torque and the way it revs.has been totally reliable so far.i think they are
a better proposition than the ever popular subie motor
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| posted on March 8th, 2005 at 05:58 PM |
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go the rotor, at $250 you can't go wrong :thumb
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| posted on March 8th, 2005 at 07:45 PM |
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250 bucks for a rotor?
maybe a busted one
Anthony
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| posted on March 8th, 2005 at 09:04 PM |
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Aaron's 20B turbo black bus
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| posted on March 8th, 2005 at 09:09 PM |
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and the motor :duh
with large turbo down on the left :thumb
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| posted on March 10th, 2005 at 08:15 PM |
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I know aaron and he said that he's 20b is like driving a blown v8, cruz along at 40km in 2nd stand on it and you have a portable smoke screen and it
sounds mean !!
You only need two tools
Wd40 if it don't move and it should
Duct tape if it move's and it shouldn't
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| posted on March 14th, 2005 at 05:01 PM |
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Does anyone know if a Standard 12A is legal in a 70' model beetle. (in NSW)?????
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| posted on March 14th, 2005 at 09:47 PM |
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yeah should be.
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| posted on March 14th, 2005 at 10:10 PM |
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The 20B is a lovely fit.
I wanted to do this conversion back in 02 but people told me i was mad and the price of half cuts was a little beyond me then.
If the 1UZFE gets too hard, 20B will be the way ill go.
Over 200Kws of rear mounted 4ltr V8 Quad cam action.....
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| posted on March 15th, 2005 at 07:39 AM |
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a 20B is legal in them?
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| posted on March 15th, 2005 at 11:42 PM |
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well. fatbug. im not sure about SA but im pretty sure its the same as WA.
we over in the west here have no restrictions as to what motor can go in what vehicle. as long as the rest of the car is built to take it it can be
passed. not like you unlucky lot with your whole cc to weight bullshit .
which is why i have planned 13bt rotary into 71super. it is classed as a 2.6litre turbo for some rediculous reason. making it illegal in other
states.
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| posted on March 16th, 2005 at 12:25 PM |
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how much does a standard dub weigh?
early 60s beetle for sale - ex bush basher - spares - $100 or offers
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| posted on March 16th, 2005 at 01:23 PM |
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in QLD a kombi passes as a commercial vehicle, and therefore isn't covered by the code of practice for light vehicle modification.
Commercial vehicles as somewhat unrestricted in engine size, hence the 20B and V8 kombi's.
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