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posted on May 5th, 2005 at 06:52 PM
For those that may need some encouragement........


8 pounds of boost, small quiet 2.5 inch exhaust, pod filter, Microtech computer. The rest stock. My fellow Pastizzi eater Nathan Bajda played with the computer & it now comes on boost at 2650rpm & u can hear it chirping the tyres in 2nd gear in the dry on the flat when it comes on boost.
It's quite an exciting ride.
Nathan said with a 3 inch exhaust & 10 pounds boost it may crack 220hp plus at the wheels. But this is more than enough for me!! For now. Could also safely add more timing on boost as well, conservative has been my moto so far.
145.7kw @ the wheels.
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posted on May 5th, 2005 at 06:58 PM


saw you the other day, turning onto manns road. looked and sounded sweet mate....
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posted on May 5th, 2005 at 08:28 PM


Isnt it a simple basic motor ,cheap thrills ,cost half the price of anything else,uses only 4 plugs,has hp to give a hard on for the rest of your life.:D:D:D:Dgo skaife.JVLRacing
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posted on May 5th, 2005 at 08:40 PM


Wow thats impressive:-

145 kiloWatts = 194.448203 horsepower

I bet it would cost three times as much to get that hp out of a VW block!

How much did you have to move the gearbox forward Jak? What box are you using?

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 12:40 AM


i think i read somewhere that he is using a standard L bug box?

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 01:42 AM


I was at the dyno today....it sounds so quiet at idle and low revs, kinda howls and whistles at 6k though!

Jak was leaning through one window telling the guy not to tune it up much as it is his daily driver...I'm telling him to up the boost and tune the hell out of it...with 10 or 12 pound and all the maps tweaked it would have easy another 25kw.

You do not want to let all the ponies gallop from the stable at once!

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 06:44 AM


I'm running a standard L-bug gearbox moved forward 2 inches.

I said to Nathan, 'I only take it to 5500rpm so don't bother going much past there' He just rolled his eyes at me & said OK, on the first run he dropped off at 5500rpm & it made 125kw @ the wheels.
'It wants to rev, I can feel it' So the next few runs he took it all the way to 7000rpm & it still didnt' drop off in power.
I'm wrapped! We then spent an hour going through all the maps for cruise at 60km, 80km , 100km & 120km adjusting the fuel for economy off boost.
U could feel the difference just leaning against the car when something was changed.
It was well worth the effort.
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 07:33 AM


Aw man I can feel myself getting sucked in to the subie fold! Nice work Jak
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 08:20 AM


I'm amazed at that torque curve, it's so flat. A good indication of a well breathing well set-up engine.

nice work Jak. The conservative is a good moto. It's less expensive and heart breaking than breaking stuff




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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 10:42 AM


I'm encouraged! Now I just need to start saving:)



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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 11:02 AM


Yeah engine transplants are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more



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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 11:25 AM


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Yeah engine transplants are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more



I can live with other peoples terminology.

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 12:01 PM


Man I am hanging out to see how well me buggy goes with the sti motor. Like the flat torque curve you got it must be bloody nice to drive.



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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 12:07 PM


Well done Jak.

We've had our differences, but I genuinely mean it when I say you must be very pleased and proud of what you have achieved. I admire the short time it took to do the conversion. I am sure there will be a few more converts, knowing that yours has turned out so well.

If I didn't have an Oval, mmmmm ..........................

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 12:31 PM


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Yeah engine transplants are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more


Yeah twin webers are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more

Yeah scat cranks and mahle pistons are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more

I guess it depends on where you draw the line. At what point does it stop becoming a VW? If it looks like a VW it's a VW.

But we don't want to get off topic here. So what was the topic anyway?

Jak,

By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 01:30 PM
Worth it!


The conversion looks like a lot of work and I swear Jak should be an engineer and not an architect.

Imagine the R & D work trying to get that kind of a torque curve and that much horsepower out of a beetle engine. Then the conversion doesn't look that big.

I'm disappointed that Jak didn't do a few tweeks just to hit the majic 200 hp mark. It's so close.

Well done Jak. I think you should have a Maltese Star on your sig line.

Congrats to Pastitzi (sp?) Racing and Cable Tie Engineering.




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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 02:36 PM


well done jak........:thumb
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 03:41 PM


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Quote:
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Yeah engine transplants are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more


Yeah twin webers are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more

Yeah scat cranks and mahle pistons are nice...;) ... but it isn't a VW any more

I guess it depends on where you draw the line. At what point does it stop becoming a VW? If it looks like a VW it's a VW.

But we don't want to get off topic here. So what was the topic anyway?

Jak,

By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.

Wes


yeah blah blah blah.. Some of you blokes have thin skins!

Err..12-something... 4-something... Real good calculations, Wez! Sure you didn't just pluck those figures out of thin air?!


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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 04:25 PM


The acceleration times vary alot depending on the specifics of Jak's car that I don't know.

You obviously don't know me very well, I don't pull numbers out of thin air.

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 04:28 PM


I know you'd be smarter than to say "12-something". That's what a ricer would say;)



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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 04:39 PM


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Well done Jak.

We've had our differences, but I genuinely mean it when I say you must be very pleased and proud of what you have achieved. I admire the short time it took to do the conversion. I am sure there will be a few more converts, knowing that yours has turned out so well.

If I didn't have an Oval, mmmmm ..........................

maybe!


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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 04:40 PM


Nice work Wes...hard to believe those figures when you think your car is quick doing 15's. Even harder when Jaks conversion cost $4000 not $10k+.

Hey doesnt VW own the design rights to the ej20t?
So it is still a vw after all.

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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 04:44 PM


Jak,

By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.

Wes

I think high 13 Wes, with a high mph. I like to be conservative & have a surprize at the end.!
Oh & my car weighs 1000kg now.
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 04:57 PM


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The conversion looks like a lot of work and I swear Jak should be an engineer and not an architect.

Imagine the R & D work trying to get that kind of a torque curve and that much horsepower out of a beetle engine. Then the conversion doesn't look that big.

I'm disappointed that Jak didn't do a few tweeks just to hit the majic 200 hp mark. It's so close.

Well done Jak. I think you should have a Maltese Star on your sig line.

Congrats to Pastitzi (sp?) Racing and Cable Tie Engineering.


Yes my friend, here at Pastizzi Racing & Cable Tie Engineering we don't discriminate, from single plug 1941's to wrx conversions.
It's all happening!
As for the Maltese cross, they're like Oakley Stickers these days, every fukwits got one!
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 05:03 PM


Damn fine result Jak. Now to get down to Terrigal on a Thursday night and shut the ricers up.
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 05:19 PM


Matt that is correct,its still a vw design all German design motor. The Patient design was given to Japan on clauses that they changed it from a standard design to a upgraded steriod motor to what we see today.(This is fact not fiction)JVLRacing
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 05:21 PM


1000kg with or without the driver?

1000kg + driver will push you into the 13's, correct.

I don't think the aerodynamic figures are quite right though, because it is predicting a top speed of 205kph. VW's are pretty unaerodynamic though. The Cd figure I have is I think for an early standard beetle, yours would be better I guess.

And anyone with Excel 2000 or better can download and play with that program.
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 05:24 PM


Thats pretty much spot on Wes, probably 1070kg with me , full tank of fuel & the stereo on!
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posted on May 6th, 2005 at 06:07 PM


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Damn fine result Jak. Now to get down to Terrigal on a Thursday night and shut the ricers up.

lol... Top idea!




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Matt that is correct,its still a vw design all German design motor. The Patient design was given to Japan on clauses that they changed it from a standard design to a upgraded steriod motor to what we see today.(This is fact not fiction)JVLRacing

What does that all mean?




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