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 NigeType3
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| posted on July 5th, 2005 at 04:49 PM |
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Intermitent wiper setup
Has anyone put a intermitent wiper setup in there car?
I remember 15 years ago you could buy a universal kit for seventies cars that didn't have it. Complicated little buggers to wire up but they
worked.
Dose anyone know of such a thing exists at all from say repco or some of the other car places.
I getind a sore arm turning the wipers on and of all the time its realy sh*ting me off.
Thanks in advance Nige
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| posted on July 5th, 2005 at 07:25 PM |
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I have been thinking about this too, I think jaycar may have a kit? Otherwise you could just get a module from another car at the wreckers and adapt
it somehow..
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| posted on July 5th, 2005 at 07:31 PM |
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I've seen a variable dial set up from an early 80s S[t]igma used in a VW before. It has a wind up reisistor that doesn't make the wiper intermittent
but slow thru to medium, then two clicks for the normal 2 speed.
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| posted on July 5th, 2005 at 08:43 PM |
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I think jaycar has it. I'll have to look at the catalog though.
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| posted on July 5th, 2005 at 10:14 PM |
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Hi
I fitted a factory one to my yellow bug, it used a Golf 1 relay (pn# 111 955 531) and the later style beetle wiper switch.
Steve
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| posted on July 5th, 2005 at 11:58 PM |
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How late is the later style Steve ?
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| posted on July 6th, 2005 at 09:01 AM |
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Hi
Wiper switch on the steering column, 72 or later. Some of the original switches dont have the extra wire fitted, all new switches have the extra wire,
some even have a 12 volt out that operates when you pull on the wiper switch, ideal for electric washers.
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| posted on September 15th, 2006 at 09:01 PM |
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Hi
Found this on the Hella site and bought one, they retail for about $100. Or visit the site http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=365
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| posted on September 16th, 2006 at 01:24 AM |
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The Fiat 2300S has a switch like an old style headlight dipper switch on the floor beside the left foot. A press of the button causes one sweep of the
wipers at slow speed. To hold the button down causes them to sweep continuously until the button is released. My passengers used to be fascinated that
the car seemed to know when to wipe the window as it used to occur randomly. I had a lot of fun telling them that the car had a sensor on the bottom
of the widscreen because as I was driving my hands did not leave the steering wheel.
I have to have a soft modern steering wheel in my Manx SR and it has two horn buttons at the ends of the spokes. I am considering making one of them
the horn button and the other an intermittent windscreen wiper switch. I'll need to ask my engineer first.
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| posted on September 16th, 2006 at 10:13 PM |
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all the beetle bodies I have seen still have the round place to screw a dipper switch...
actually one on either side..
I bought an intermittant windscreen wiper switch that has the early VW ivory knob on it...
it looks like it was made that way...
Only problem is. I don't have any paperwork or circuit diagrams etc.. for it...
I do however have another one... somewhere..
I'll have to find it and install it, before the next rainy season... lol:P:P
I haven't a clue where it is....
I did make one from a kit years ago and installed it in My L300 Mitsubishi....
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| posted on September 16th, 2006 at 11:17 PM |
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http://www.apogeekits.com/windshield_wiper_control.htm
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| posted on January 29th, 2009 at 07:05 AM |
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I just built this circuit, and it actually works!
http://www.techlib.com/files/wiperkik.pdf
I changed some of the resistor sizes to get the timing I wanted. I am using a wiper stalk from an MX6 and wanted to use it's intermittent dial (which
was 100k not 500k as on the circuit). So I changed some of the other resistor sizes and experimented with different capacitors. In the end I have
intermittent adjustment from 3 to 30 seconds.
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| posted on January 29th, 2009 at 07:34 AM |
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I fitted them to my 65 bug
get a 2 speed wiper from later model and a modul from a golf
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| posted on January 29th, 2009 at 01:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by NigeType3
Has anyone put a intermitent wiper setup in there car?
I remember 15 years ago you could buy a universal kit for seventies cars that didn't have it. Complicated little buggers to wire up but they
worked.
Dose anyone know of such a thing exists at all from say repco or some of the other car places.
I getind a sore arm turning the wipers on and of all the time its realy sh*ting me off.
Thanks in advance Nige
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K-Mart at Blacktown had them but that was ....er...... before 1980! I had it on a 1972 SB. The only problem fitting it was determining the "type"
of electric motor on the wiper. There were two wiring setups on this switch and if you chose the wrong one there was a short circuit when it
activated.
DH
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| posted on February 2nd, 2009 at 05:20 PM |
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I went to put the circuit I posted above into my car on the weekend (I hadn't tested it in the car yet) and I found out it sucked! It sucked all my
precious electrons!
I wired it into my existing wiper circuit (with the motor) which I had a 15 amp fuse on, and it blew the fuse. So I upped it to 30amp and then it
worked, but whenever the little intermittent circuit triggered the relay it made everything else in the car go dim. So I figured it was a very power
hungry circuit and perhaps not what I am looking for.
So I will be checking it and then trying another option...
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| posted on February 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 PM |
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Hi
Lucky it didn't let the smoke out of the box, you all know that its smoke that powers things not electricity.
Steve
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| posted on February 3rd, 2009 at 04:03 PM |
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electrical theory of smoke by mr lucas.
its a classic i use it at work.
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| posted on February 3rd, 2009 at 07:00 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Baja Wes
I went to put the circuit I posted above into my car on the weekend (I hadn't tested it in the car yet) and I found out it sucked! It sucked all my
precious electrons!
I wired it into my existing wiper circuit (with the motor) which I had a 15 amp fuse on, and it blew the fuse. So I upped it to 30amp and then it
worked, but whenever the little intermittent circuit triggered the relay it made everything else in the car go dim. So I figured it was a very power
hungry circuit and perhaps not what I am looking for.
So I will be checking it and then trying another option...
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Wes
That's because of the park circuit I suspect.
In the diagram posted by 1303steve above note that term 53a is connected to 12v and term 53e is connected to the motor via the off switch. The other
side of the cam switch is connected to ground and this brakes the motor to a stop. So when the wiper is parked, the slow speed terminal 53 is
connected to ground via the wiper switch and cam switch contact.
To wipe intermittently you need a changeover relay to break the circuit from the switch to the wiper term 53 and connect 12v until the motor moves
away from park and then restore the connection so the wiper will park again.
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| posted on February 3rd, 2009 at 09:05 PM |
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put wiper switch on then off every so often works for me..
especially when i haven't put the rain ex on the screen then no wipers needed at all.. top stuff rain ex..
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| posted on February 5th, 2009 at 10:24 AM |
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The transistor circuit that I posted even used a lot of power before I had it connected to the wipers. When I was bench testing it I used a 4amp
charger and that didn't have enough power to power the circuit when it tried to trigger the relat.
I have now built a 555 timer chip circuit, set-up as an oscillator. It lets me vary the intermittent wipers between 3 and 30seconds using the MX6
stalk variable resistor. It seems more reliable in it's timing. It runs off the 4 amp charger no problems when switching the relay.
But when I connected it to the car and the wiper switch / motor, I still saw a lot of power being used when it tried to switch the relay and start the
wipers moving. The lights went dim again. So I must have something not quite right in the wiper switch / wiper motor wiring.
I need to stare at the wiper switch circuit board and the schematic again. The circuit board doesn't really match this diagram.
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| posted on February 5th, 2009 at 11:21 AM |
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Wes
Are you breaking the park circuit when you connect to the wipers? Read my post above.
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| posted on February 5th, 2009 at 02:05 PM |
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Lex,
I have it autoparking and have tried breaking the autoparking power with a double acting relay but it didn't do anything. The thing I don't have
working is the grounding both sides of the motor when it is parked. I will play with it tonight.
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| posted on February 5th, 2009 at 10:10 PM |
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Ok, I have it all wired as per the Mazda diagram, but with a 555 timer doing the intermittent wipers, and it's working great!
The only thing I haven't quite got sorted is the windscreen washer. By the Mazda diagram it can also trip the intermittent relay, which would require
a relay with two seperate activation coils or something strange??? I can probably get both circuits to trip the one relay if I use a few diodes
perhaps....
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