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| posted on April 18th, 2006 at 11:43 AM |
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Semaphores
can anyone tell me what was operated by the semaphores when they are in the up position??
There are two terminals inside the semaphore - one to power the solenoid and lamp and the other is connected to the solenoid shaft when it comes out
the end of the solenoid coil.
Was there something on the dash to tell you it was "ON"??
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| posted on April 18th, 2006 at 12:19 PM |
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the second terminal is for the blue wire , to the indicator warning light on the speedo (arrow), when the semaphore goes up, a shaft that looks like a
huge needle comes down through the solenoid , rubs against a sprung terminal connected to that treminal & completes the circuit
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| posted on April 18th, 2006 at 12:53 PM |
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ok thanks... clears that up...
does anyone know how it is internally wired to make that work? where is the needle piece connected into the power circuit?
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| posted on April 18th, 2006 at 01:02 PM |
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doesn't that needle piece slide against a brass/copper leaf spring (when the arm extends) to turn on the light in the semaphore?
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| posted on April 18th, 2006 at 04:04 PM |
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no... the light is powered from the same connection as the solenoid.
the needle then comes out of the solenoid when it is in the up position to make the connection to the second teminal.
Am just wondering where the connection to the needle is made at the other end?
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 09:05 AM |
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I think the top end of the needle must be earthed? Isn't the dash warning lamp "hot" (i.e. its at 6V)? This would mean that if the needle is
earthed then current will flow and the lamp will light up.
Use a multimeter to test if the needle is connected to the base plate of the solenoid.
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 11:37 AM |
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thanks everyone for all your help....
the needle shorts to the frame of the car through the mounting bracket of the semaphore.
have figured out what i need to know to get em working...
thanks.
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 11:38 AM |
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wanna make mine work after you're finished? :P
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 11:50 AM |
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hahaha.. sure... what condition are they in??
will let you know after the weekend if what i want to do can be done..
They require some modification and will not look "original" when i finish as i have to completely dismantle them and rebuild them again... and this
requires drilling out the rivets etc...
fingers crossed.
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 12:09 PM |
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They're in pretty good condition.. everything's there, but there doesn't seem to be enough current to lift up by itself. Are you making a blinking
circuit as well?
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 01:27 PM |
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yes... will all run from 12V in the end and have blinking lights.
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 02:30 PM |
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you are sooo doing mine...
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 04:20 PM |
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well first step is complete... have them in pieces ready for rebuild.
Do we want photos before i go any further????
happy to post as i go if people are interested.
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 05:08 PM |
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yes, photos are always good! and use macro mode so it's not blurry!
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| posted on April 19th, 2006 at 06:14 PM |
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scuse the ignorance... but what is macro mode and how do i use it?? lol
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 09:27 AM |
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Yes, post photos! And also do us a wiring diagram of how you make them blink, if you can!!!
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 10:07 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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scuse the ignorance... but what is macro mode and how do i use it?? lol
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It's usually denoted by an icon of a flower... It'll permit you to shoot close up and in focus. Otherwise, all we'll get is a pic of something
blurry in the foreground with a nice crisp backgroud.. :thumb
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 10:54 AM |
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ok... i'll see how these go.
first one is coil removed from semaphore
connection segment (with one connector missing)
semaphore without coil attached
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 12:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by blutopless2
They require some modification and will not look "original" when i finish as i have to completely dismantle them and rebuild them again... and this
requires drilling out the rivets etc...
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Oh my god!!!!! Not original ??????? What on earth are you thinking ????????
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 12:44 PM |
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you silly girl... they will look original on the outside but of course they wont be "original" on the inside coz they need modification....
sheesh... do i have to explain EVERYTHING!!! lol :duh
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 12:57 PM |
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i'm not touching this with a 10 foot clown pole...:duh
good pics man. more.
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 03:03 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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i'm not touching this with a 10 foot clown pole...:duh
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wuss.... lol.
I will be putting them back as close to what they were before i started... just no need in my case to hook up the warning lamp to say it is in the up
position as i have the flashing light on the dash for indicators anyway.
Will find out tomorrow if my plan is going to work or not.
Have to hunt for some parts to put it back together.
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 06:40 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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you silly girl...
sheesh... do i have to explain EVERYTHING!!! lol :duh
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Well ..... you married me ..... and if you spoke clearly then you wouldn't have to explain everything
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 07:08 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mscabrio
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you silly girl...
sheesh... do i have to explain EVERYTHING!!! lol :duh
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Well ..... you married me ..... and if you spoke clearly then you wouldn't have to explain everything
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Like I said... I'm not touching THIS, with a 10ft clown pole...
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 08:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mscabrio
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you silly girl...
sheesh... do i have to explain EVERYTHING!!! lol :duh
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Well ..... you married me ..... and if you spoke clearly then you wouldn't have to explain everything
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hahaha... yes i did marry you... but i thought i spoke english well enough that you didn't need a translator!
so ner!
hehehe.. this is fun! :P
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| posted on April 20th, 2006 at 09:46 PM |
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maybe you mumble... chicks always complain we mumble...
20ft clown pole...
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| posted on April 21st, 2006 at 12:33 PM |
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lol.. went to check out some info today... what i want to do sounds doable but will take me a while to sort out some of the rebuild.
will post more next week when i get back to work.
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| posted on April 28th, 2006 at 01:48 PM |
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ok.. i have done a test run before i bothered to rebuild the semaphores and pretty them up in case what i wanted to do would not work.
Test was good and shows that it will work how i want them to... so here are some more pics of the work i have done to clean them up... am waiting on
some parts which wont be in till next week so that i can progress them further.
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| posted on April 28th, 2006 at 03:36 PM |
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very intersting. I'll be doing mine not far down the track...
Are you rewinding them for 12 V?
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| posted on April 28th, 2006 at 05:09 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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maybe you mumble... chicks always complain we mumble...
20ft clown pole...
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Or maybe when he talk about stuff like this all I hear is blah blah blah
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