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| posted on May 17th, 2006 at 08:16 PM |
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hypothetical open for discussion!!!!
This is one of those hypotheticals
what if i were to throw a flathead v8 into a volksrod
I’ve always liked old 8s
And I love my dubs
Some people won’t like this, but what would you guys think of an OG paint volksrod with ford flat head 8 in the rear it’s not meant to be a show
car or a race car but a car to have some fun with, it won’t be registered, just something that looks completely different to most of the cars we see
at shows but I do want to do the whole summernats cruise thing and I want to do it in a VW and this might just be the car
I already have the vehicle it’s my boys 54 oval
I made up by getting another bug for him
I can get my hands on a running ford flathead v8
Which were made up to 54 as well
I also know the volksrod purists will hate it because I don’t want to chop it but I do want to get it low, loud obnoxious.
I know it not simple to do but it’s a start, whats involved, pull off the guards, ste up lights and fenders and slam it?
What else
Come on experienced guys what do I do. Matt, Damo where do I start. Forget about the engine conversion, it’s sorted
Just remember it is a hypothetical question you can’t hurt my feelings
I’m after advice fire away
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| posted on May 17th, 2006 at 08:53 PM |
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sounds tough. What about a Tatra aircooled v8? Hard to find but man what a talking point, and still in the same line of things. straight through
pipes, loud and brutal! Mount tranny further forward then space the axles back to orig position using bus reduction cases, so you can then fit those
extra 2 cylinders on each side. just my 2 cents worth.
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| posted on May 17th, 2006 at 08:56 PM |
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if your gonna rod it anyway i would say midmount. that way you can get better weight distributon and have a better chance of keeping the nose down
with the torque. that and can get a stronger gearbox more easily.
trunk monkey, because sometime getting your car back just isn't enough
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| posted on May 17th, 2006 at 09:06 PM |
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hi guys tatra would be cool but have flathead at arms distance and don't want to destroy the body too much.
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| posted on May 17th, 2006 at 10:02 PM |
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maybe make the front out of cement:P i just dunno how a v8 will go with keeping the wheels on the ground. would be awesome though. vw rod, and a v8,
no way to lose  i say go for it. need to move the gearbox back if not
gonna mid mount it, and get heaps of bracing to try and stop the gearbox from torquing out of the car hehe
trunk monkey, because sometime getting your car back just isn't enough
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| posted on May 17th, 2006 at 10:09 PM |
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Ron....man go for it. Don't know how though. I just want to be around in 10 years when your lil fella gets told that his Dad swapped his 54 on him.
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 01:49 AM |
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too heavy
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 08:32 AM |
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 08:34 AM |
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just out of curiousity what would a flathead weigh? they are a lot smaller and simpler than a 350.
If its just for cruising and not going to be registered then Id say it will be a fairly simple project. Might need to put some larger torsions in the
back for the weight?
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 08:59 AM |
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If its slammed as you say, then it will be hard up on the bumpstops anyway so it wont effect the torsion bars too much, just get your shock valving
right so you dont bounce off the road when you hit a pothole.
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 09:14 AM |
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Hey Ron,
At the risk of hurting your feelings, here is my opinion.
Forget it..... Dont get side tracked. Stick to doing the 54 for your son. This is a big project, will take heaps of work, it will sit around, it wont
be finsihed by the time you start another bug for your son, then you will have two side by side that you are working on. I have been there done that,
i am doing it now for f#ck sake. Just do the 54, then worry about this V8 one. The bug will look excellent the way you originally planned.
On the other hand, i think dropping the beetle body on to a full chassis with motor in front would be way better solution than running that flatty out
back with the original floorpan. Have you seen Blueys red V8 bug? This is on a Austin (i think?) chassis and works very well. Remounting the body is
not a major task. Either way, this is a lot of work for a car that wont be registered. Would look mad cool though!!
Sorry mate, i hope i didn't hurt your feelings.
Whatever you decide count on me though to give you a hand.:thumb
Damo.
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 10:11 AM |
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The sidey is too heavy!
Grab it though and build a HA/GR.
Was over at a friends the other day at the beginning of the build of four of them.
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| posted on May 18th, 2006 at 08:15 PM |
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go lift a holden v6 than tripple it a bit heavy for a rear mount
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| posted on May 21st, 2006 at 09:40 PM |
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Damo mate, wont hurt my feelings
thought it would look cool and different
just seeing what you guys think
see you soon to give my beam a bit of a rub up!!:kiss
man that sounds sus:duh
cheers
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| posted on May 21st, 2006 at 09:55 PM |
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Just thinking completly left field here....what about a harley motor? I cant see a performance advantage (unless you cough up for a buell billet pro
stocker...) but it would look cool and i think adapters may be available already for trike guys? or a scat V4 if you can track one down! theyre pretty
much half a 350 chev i think! But even better....a vintage turbo indycar offenhauser!! 900hp!!
I think i may be getting carried away here....
I wonder if KB hemi would fit? you might need to clearance the firewall for the setback blower though:P
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| posted on May 23rd, 2006 at 11:06 PM |
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Ron dont do it not a 54 please buy a 6os and go for it "NOT A 54"
I LOVE VOLKSRODS and hotrods and flat heads
but not on a rare old girl get a oval clip chop a 60s bug cut chop build a chassic chuk a flat head in have fun but not on a 54 "man i sound like a
purist but its just not right
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| posted on May 24th, 2006 at 11:27 AM |
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brendan thats funny
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| posted on May 24th, 2006 at 11:35 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by kroozzn62
Ron dont do it not a 54 please buy a 6os and go for it "NOT A 54"
I LOVE VOLKSRODS and hotrods and flat heads
but not on a rare old girl get a oval clip chop a 60s bug cut chop build a chassic chuk a flat head in have fun but not on a 54 "man i sound like a
purist but its just not right
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| posted on May 25th, 2006 at 11:53 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by kroozzn62
Ron dont do it not a 54 please buy a 6os and go for it "NOT A 54"
I LOVE VOLKSRODS and hotrods and flat heads
but not on a rare old girl get a oval clip chop a 60s bug cut chop build a chassic chuk a flat head in have fun but not on a 54 "man i sound like a
purist but its just not right
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I agree. Don't use a 54 oval. An early splitty ute would be much better!:P
then you could rego it too.
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| posted on May 25th, 2006 at 02:27 PM |
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i agree theres plenty of 60s save it for someone who will respect it for what it is..
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| posted on May 25th, 2006 at 02:54 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
| Quote: | Originally
posted by kroozzn62
Ron dont do it not a 54 please buy a 6os and go for it "NOT A 54"
I LOVE VOLKSRODS and hotrods and flat heads
but not on a rare old girl get a oval clip chop a 60s bug cut chop build a chassic chuk a flat head in have fun but not on a 54 "man i sound like a
purist but its just not right
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I agree. Don't use a 54 oval. An early splitty ute would be much better!:P
then you could rego it too.
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I don't mean 60s, I mean like a 58 ute.
As for using an oval...everytime I blink there seems to be another oval surface, and from what I'm lead to beleive, we've got more of em per capita
out here than the US and they cut em up over there like there's no tomorrow. So if Mike from CBB can make his a drag car, why can Ron put a V8 in
his...athough I think it will be very tail heavy.
That said Ron, you do have a history of not quite finishing things. Maybe stick to one thing at a time.
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| posted on May 25th, 2006 at 05:52 PM |
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don't think i will cut her up.
though i'm putting my beam in tomorrow to get adjusters and narrowed!
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| posted on June 1st, 2006 at 11:15 PM |
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I think that it is a great idea for a custom rod.
21 stud Ford flathead engines weigh 525 pounds or 240 kilograms.
24 stud engines weigh 570 pounds or 260 kilograms.
Have fun keeping the front end down.
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| posted on June 5th, 2006 at 05:42 PM |
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there is a tatra right in the next street from me crazy chec mechanic owns it i pulled up in the bug looking for some 6v headlight globes and asked if
i could check out the aircooled v8 he obliged me but then started rantin and raving when he saw the beetle about f##king hitler bastard car stole our
technology po##ter german .i backed away slowly then he started ranting at me !bloody elvis driving german shitbox what a fucking cracker!!!:P
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| posted on June 5th, 2006 at 06:21 PM |
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It would be a shame to cut up a 1954 Volkswagen beetle
Remember they are getting very scarce...
and will just keep getting scarcer....
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