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 66deluxe
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| posted on August 27th, 2006 at 07:18 PM |
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Type 1 2275cc Engine*SOLD*
Hi all, i have just finished rebuilding this type 1 2275cc engine for my friend Steve, it was originally built by Stan Pobjoy over 10 years ago, i
have just simply rebuilt with new crank and cam bearings, new piston rings and new gasket kit. The engine has a SPG Roller crank in it. I have a
list of all measurements obtained in the build: 2275cc Roller Engine Assembly tolerances:
Camshaft Axial Play : 0.06mm
Camshaft gear to crank gear backlash: 0.02mm
Cylinder Shims: 1.15mm
Crankshaft endplay: 0.09mm
Deck height TDC: #1 1.78mm #2 1.81mm #3 1.78mm #4 1.76mm
Head CC: #1 67cc #2 67cc #3 67cc #4 67cc
Calculated Compression Ratio: 8.1:1
Total valve lift : 0.460” or 11.68mm
Valve geometry set @ Half total lift: 5.84mm
Stroke: 82mm
Bore: 94mm
Rocker ratio: 1.25:1
Crank mains: 0.25mm under ID, OD standard
Before assembly i have cleaned all parts very thouroughly at my work were i have access to excellent cleaning equipment as i overhaul aircraft
engines. The case has also been crack tested by our NDT guy, using Flourescent Penetrant inspection technique and the case has no cracks to be found
in the usual areas as well as the rest of the case. I also had the cam and lifters reground by Tighe Cams, and have the cam tolarances also. The
engine is equipped with 40 IDF Webbers, 009 Dizzy with electronic ignition and the heads are original 041 heads with heavy duty single springs,
lightened flywheel and deep sump extension. Selling price requested by my friend is $4000 negotiable, Contact me either by U2U or on 0405464872,
please ring only after 5pm monday to friday or anytime on Saturday and Sunday. I am in North Brisbane (Murrumba Downs). I also have video footage of
this engine running before overhaul, the engine in it's current state has not been run yet. Here are some photo's of the rebuild. Cheers
Damien.
Complete engine.
Cleaned parts ready for assembly.
Assembly.
 
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| posted on August 27th, 2006 at 08:47 PM |
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Nice work Damo, good luck for the sale for your friend. Can't wait to see how your type IV turns out with that level of quality and attention to
detail!
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| posted on August 27th, 2006 at 09:38 PM |
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66deluxe
you have u2u
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| posted on August 27th, 2006 at 10:04 PM |
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U2u'd also
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| posted on August 28th, 2006 at 03:17 PM |
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Now that would push the Frid along!!!....detail..smick oh!!
Cheers&Beers
Ray V
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| posted on August 28th, 2006 at 07:24 PM |
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Thanks Alan, i am itching to build my type 4 just have to get pistons and heads, then i will build. Cheers Damo.
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| posted on August 28th, 2006 at 08:12 PM |
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I expected to see this bad boy sold by now....
Reub
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| posted on August 28th, 2006 at 08:51 PM |
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Hi Damo,
Did you mod the main bearings for the oil spray?
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 01:19 PM |
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Can you give the engine #s for it.
Is it based on a 2litre combi engine?
Where the sleeves changed?
Does anyone have any experience getting a 2 litre into a type 1 and registering it with vicroads?
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 01:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by aintgotitmusthaveit
Can you give the engine #s for it.
Is it based on a 2litre combi engine?
Where the sleeves changed?
Does anyone have any experience getting a 2 litre into a type 1 and registering it with vicroads?
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| Quote: | i have just finished
rebuilding this type 1 2275cc engine
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It IS a type 1 motor, 2275=82x94
VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:27 PM |
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your motor
I hope you grooved the main bearings for the oil spray to the big end roller bearings(as per the reply by Dangerous)... also, was the crank pinned(if
this is not done, the crank will twist as soon as you give it a little boot).seen many motors die this way, just want to warn you before it is too
late.(all that money...ugghhhh)
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:38 PM |
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aintgotitmusthaveit... a little info
a type 4 longblock is actually narrower than a type 1 longblock- no issues here. Use a 1800 kombi flywheel, get the centre drilled for the mainshaft
pilot bearing(which needs to be pressed into the flywheel), your car needs to have a post 1970 (12V of course) box which has the clutch TO bearing
sleeve for the 1800 clutch pressure plate, get a T4into T1 conversion kit(sharpbuilt??) and off you go... just tell the inspectors your old motor blew
up! you will also need to sort out the exhaust system.
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:39 PM |
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what is pinning the crank??? are these a two piece crank
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:46 PM |
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the crank is pressed together at the big ends as the rods do not dismantle like a conventional rod
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:50 PM |
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They are more than two piece, so if every journal is not drilled and pinned with a bloody large, hardened pin, you will run into trouble.
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:53 PM |
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They are a 5 piece crank!
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 09:59 PM |
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im looking for a goodmotor for a manx tis all
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 10:02 PM |
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im looking for a bit of power and would like to turbo charge it wadda you rekon
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 10:22 PM |
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you will still need to get the type 4 crank counterweighted to utilise fully the power gain from the turbo and also avoid making a mess of the centre
main bearings.(and maybe breaking the crank). a type 1 with a good aftermarket crank and properly prepped case will do the job just as well. it is
also lighter!
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 11:12 PM |
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well the crank could have been built by one of these...:sandrine
Any other SPG owners out there?
guys, do your homework.
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| posted on August 29th, 2006 at 11:21 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
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posted by 1500king
the crank is pressed together at the big ends as the rods do not dismantle like a conventional rod
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what does this mean????? i cant see any bolts on the rods in the pics!!are you saying its not true and in your opinion would this type of motor suit a
manx application???
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 12:00 AM |
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check out some of the threads on thesamba.com about spg roller cranks. these should clear it up for you, click below...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161496
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 12:25 AM |
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thanks mate but still seems to be a lot of uncertanty on weather their good or bad what is your opinion have ou used one this motor seems good value
for dollars i was quoted $7500 by pobjoy for a counterweighted 1916cc
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 12:35 AM |
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this motor would rock in anything! its an exceptional build by stan and rebuild by damien. well worth the $. couldnt build one for that. if i had the
coin it would have been snapped up 3 months ago before i went to europe!
goodluck with the sale
nick
ps. i think the compression is fine for turboing. or just leave it n/a. its going to push a manx along something chronic - just my 2c
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 12:46 AM |
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thanks mate do you know damien?? is he a reputable builder i drive my cars pretty hard and im constantly trying to squeese more out of my 13bppt
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 10:18 AM |
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Seems i have a few questions to answer, first the crank, i am not sure if the crank has been pinned, but i do know that when my mate was driving it he
would take off hard occasionaly, when i measured the crank on V blocks at work it meassured true and round and this was reflected by the numbers found
when measuring TDC and Deck Height. As for the main bearings for oil spray i searched everywhere for the correct information, but could not find any,
also when i compared the new bearings to the old ones they are the same, if any one has correct info and method/pictures of the mod i would be
prepared to dissasemble and carry out the mod. Here's some pics of the bearings old and new: 
As for myself as an engine builder and reputation i have none, all i have done is build engines for friends and myself, stock and performance examples
of these are stock type 1 and type 4 builds and a 1776, 1916 and the 2270 type 4 that i am building for myself and this type 1 2275 rebuild. I have
just finished an apprenticeship in Aviation Engineering with Pratt & Whitney where i Overhaul turboprops and turbofan Gas turbine engines, and i can
fully overhaul these aircooled monsters, all my engines at work have passed testing first time in the test cell, and these have been a total of six so
far in the last two months. Hope this has helped, thankyou Damien.
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 01:01 PM |
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u2u sent
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66deluxe
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 05:30 PM |
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Aintgotitmusthaveit i have not received a U2U from you.
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 10:35 PM |
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nice work damo 
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Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools
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| posted on August 30th, 2006 at 10:42 PM |
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bearing pics that show correct grooving
see below for correct oil grooves in the main bearings. without these, the big ends will be scorched.
http://www.amayesing.com/vwengine.htm
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