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 boristherat
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 01:50 AM |
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What is the best shifter?
Starting to gather bits for the oval and working through my list of wants.
What is the best t-bar style shifter ?
Engine will be mild 15-1600.
What are your experiences, things to look out for etc.
Advice is always appreciated.
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 08:08 AM |
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I've got an EMPI short shifter (round knob not T bar) with the ring pull reverse lock out , it came with the car when I bought it , the shift is good
and very short compared to stock , the ring pull reverse lock out is a PITA but works well insomuch as it cetrtainly keeps you out of accidental
backwards.
I had occasion to remove it a week or so ago whilst fiddling with the handbrake and the construction is very sturdy .
Would I have fitted it if it did'nt come with the car ???Deffinately , if my memory of the "wave me out the window I'm changing" stock shift is
any good.
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 08:28 AM |
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ive used both the scat and the empi, the scat beats the empi hands down where the empi has a longer throw about 3-4 inches, the scat has a throw of
about 2 inches between gears. nether are as tight as the quickshift i originally had but it has a reverse lock out
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 08:46 AM |
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Best Shifter
If you want the ultimate shifter then get a Gene Berg, they do shifters in many styles for both LHD and RHD cars.
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 09:37 AM |
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just use the standard one.
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 05:26 PM |
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I have had a Berg 'rapid travel' shifter in my car for nearly 16 years and it is sweet.
I used to put it into my 1200 bug during the week it was so nice.
Some people prefer a round knob however, which Bergs don't do.
They are very expensive now-a-days,
but provided your coupling and bush in the tunnel are in good shape,
a stock shifter can work nice, especially with a quick-shift ball and spacer.
Not sure if Daimo was joking or not, but I was fully expecting him to say Berg.
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| posted on July 21st, 2007 at 07:41 PM |
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I've only tried the empi and scat shifters, i prefer the Scat personally
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boristherat
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 01:32 AM |
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Cheers guys, might be a case of give it a whirl. Reckon I might treat myself to a Berg, for the looks also........just don't tell my wife!
[ Edited on 21-7-2007 by boristherat ]
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 08:37 AM |
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I will add i have a CSP shifter
Never had the others - only stock with shortshift kit
It i s brilliant. Very accurate.
Firm. No vibration.
Has lock out that works rellay well
T or ball - i have and prefer ball
No where near as dear as Berg
http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/shop_main.cgi?func=start&wkid=8468127333
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 09:36 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Cheers guys, might be a case of give it a whirl. Reckon I might treat myself to a Berg, for the looks also........just don't tell my wife!
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that's the way, you want me to get you one?, i have to get some more parts next week.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 11:53 AM |
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There's one on fleebay in VW parts askin $380 .
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Cheers guys, might be a case of give it a whirl. Reckon I might treat myself to a Berg, for the looks also........just don't tell my wife!
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[ Edited on 22-7-2007 by BASHOdi ]
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 PM |
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dumone how much for a csp? ill need one soon ish
show us your gates
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 PM |
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dunno about csp.............i can get all the berg stuff here in less than a week, as i have an account there
the dollar is still good, and freight not all that expensive
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 01:38 PM |
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If your going to do it - do it NOW
87c in the US$$
Be a LONG time before you will beat that :thumb
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 02:37 PM |
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where does one buy them from ? direct on csp.com?
show us your gates
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 08:43 PM |
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Dunno - i got mine off here 2nd hand
Dont think there are any agents here in Aust.
Try contacting OwenMM. That is who i bought my shifter off
[ Edited on 22-7-2007 by Bizarre ]
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| posted on July 22nd, 2007 at 10:22 PM |
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I would say the Berg too.
I can race change clutchless with ours in the Kombi. Says a lot for the shifter and the box condition. I dunno how long the box will last. :o
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| posted on July 23rd, 2007 at 12:03 AM |
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Hi
I'm not a fan of the T bar shifter, its very un-ergonomic. The Berg shifter feels very nice and positive, shame they have a T bar. I reckon the best
bang for buck shifter is a bent Type 3 shifter with a quick shifter.
Steve
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| posted on July 23rd, 2007 at 07:06 AM |
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Get a late model Type 3 no problems ( pins to fall out ) and its Stock and cheap
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| posted on July 23rd, 2007 at 07:49 AM |
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http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=17_475_2971
These range from 212 to 243 Us dollars.
Not too bad at the current exchange rate.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2007 at 09:36 AM |
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there's only 3 kinds of shifter.
Berg, Stock, and other
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| posted on July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 PM |
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I've decided to get me a Berg.
Thanks for all your help Daimo...legend!
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