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posted on August 23rd, 2007 at 09:35 PM
How do you tell if it's a factory convertible?


I'm looking at buying a Beetle Convertible at the moment. Not sure what year it is yet. Apparently it's all there and has been stored in a shed for a few years. The owner said it was used for promotional work. I'm beginning to wonder if it's an actual factory cabrio. But, the problem is, I don't know anything about the Cabrio's. Are there any tell-tale signs of knowing if the roof is factory and the entire car? Because they're asking for a very small fortune for it, and I don't think they're aware of the value of Cabrio's.
I'd appreciate any help on this.
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posted on August 23rd, 2007 at 09:43 PM



The rear side windows roll up & down for starters



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posted on August 23rd, 2007 at 09:44 PM



What year is it?

Factory Volkwagen Karmann cabriolet is very different to an aftermarket convertible.

This is the Karmann, quite few picture here, with a quick web search, you will find more

http://www.beetlecabrio.co.uk/top_classifieds.htm 

Convertibles are a sedan with the original roof removed, with varying degrees of quality.




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posted on August 23rd, 2007 at 09:46 PM



http://www.beetlecabrio.co.uk/images/Red1303rhf.gif



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posted on August 23rd, 2007 at 10:20 PM



chrome frames around windows too



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posted on August 24th, 2007 at 09:25 AM



Karmann cabriolets have different doors to the normal beetle.
the small quarter window on the door is always FLAT on
the top on a Karmann cabriolet...
it should have a Karmann badge on it....

back yard convertibles aren't worth much and every one is different... photo of Non genuine convertible...

Karmann made cabriolets are money in the bank...

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posted on August 24th, 2007 at 01:30 PM



Underneath the hood, the rear metal work does not run flush - it actually steps down. Most aftermarket chops are flat all the way around. Also there will be no rear vents above the engine lid.
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posted on August 24th, 2007 at 02:40 PM



There are big box strengtheners running underneath each of the heater channels. You can see these when you look under the running boards. The windscreen is flatter along the top edge. The rear side windows roll up and down, the quarter windows are flat on top, the rear window is glass and the top has a liner and padding as well as the outer canvas/vinyl.

The engine lid has vents in it, there are little strengthening fillets at the bottom of the A and B pillars. Underneath the front edge of the rear seat bottom, the rail it sits on is a structural piece that runs from side to side of the car and is about 100mm high. Under the fron hood, there is also some metal about 20mm wide by 150mm long welded from the top of the inside of the quarter panel going to the area near the wheel well. The karmann badge should also be there on the drivers side only. The chassis number should also start with a 15 with the 3rd number (either a 1 or a 2) being for left or right hand drive so a 151 is left hand drive and 152 is a right hand drive (from the factory).

I think that lists all the differences.

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posted on August 24th, 2007 at 04:04 PM



I thought the 10k price difference would be a give away.:P
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posted on August 24th, 2007 at 10:03 PM



easiest way to tell is cabs dont have roll bars to stop them ratteling to pieces
plus its pretty obviuos a choptop u can tell around the windscreen has just been hacked off and welded up

cabrios have a nicely finished windscreen frame and chrome frames round the door glass

i highly doubt its a cab
mis-informed ppl are under the impression these days that there crappy hack job convertables are worth money
just have a look at ebay LOL

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posted on August 24th, 2007 at 11:30 PM



If it looks like a malnourished cow with all it's ribs protruding, then it is a chop shop job.
The genuine article is a smooth double skinned setup and the rest of the beetle is of equally high finish.
The rear windows winding up and down is another genuine feature.
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posted on August 25th, 2007 at 06:14 AM



I'm just too emotional at the moment to respond to this, sorry!


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