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posted on December 10th, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Betty the beetle - the next phase begins


here it is - my 58 dub. and here is the plan.
de-crome the body and paint it grey.
get it as low as (legallyish) i can, with 2' narrowed adjustable beam and adjustable spring plates.
extractors of course

she's been in a shed for the last 10 years before i bought it so i want to give the engine a quick overhaul as the 34hp runs rough. any sugestions on the usual things to do would help, i was thinking of new rings and head gasket? is it necessary?

i've got christmas leave now so i'm going to get stuck into it. should be a good practice for when i get an oval and put an 1800 and irs pan under one.
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posted on December 10th, 2008 at 10:52 PM



they dont have head gaskets (as far as i know).you might not need to rebuild. does it blow any smoke, any ratles and bangs if not it could be ignition timing, a bodgy lead , or spark plug shagged points, coroded dizzy cap. blocked jets. hope this helps



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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 04:56 AM



That is a great looking beeltle. I love the paintwork and chrome as it is! Definitely lower it though.

(I can't talk because mine has been freshly painted - had to be done though because it had a crap repspray - can't wait for some patina to develop)
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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 06:17 AM



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That is a great looking beeltle. I love the paintwork and chrome as it is! Definitely lower it though.


I have to agree, it looks great as it is. Spend your cash on period accessories and drop it !
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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 08:51 AM



yeah she blows smoke and takes a while to start, even with a new 6v battery. behind the rocker covers is pretty shiny so i was hopeing the internals were the same.
the respray is too good for a rat but not that good either. a friend of mine is an ex raaf painter and he is going to paint it for cartons. i'll leave the wolfsburg crest on the bonnet though.




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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 09:07 AM



yeah thats a wicked colour. have a play around with it on photoshop or something and c what those greyish brm's look like
on it. could look differnt.

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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 11:47 AM



Dude that looks awesome as is. All you needa do is lower it. Don't change the paint or chrome. Keep it as is:yes:



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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 12:15 PM



yeah another a vote for leaving the paint as is... looks awesome, and will look sick when slammed :yes:

stock smoothies would look cool or maybe some BRMs like Chris says or I reckon some Escras would be the tits!

but thats just what i would do, its totally up to you man its your car.... have fun! :punk:
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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 01:10 PM



sorry couldnt help myself :rolleyes: just an idea

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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 04:07 PM



Between the sinuous front guards and the swooping decklid this is a very elegant looking vintage car.

Great to see it being brought back to road condition. Even with new pistons & barrels the engine work will not be expensive, relative to a complex modern car.




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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 09:25 PM



seems like I will disappoint a few people by painting the 58!
I didn't plan to paint it for a while, but the offer of a cheap paint job was hard to pass up. and the rest of the body is covered in surface rust.
spent hours daydreaming about colour combos, two tone black/white etc. I want to save that idea for an oval.

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posted on December 11th, 2008 at 09:45 PM



took the engine out today to check it out and give it a clean. not as bad as i was expecting. looks like it may have newer heads as they are a different colour- or is that normal? and the rockers are much shinier than my 68 i had years ago!
the heat exchangers and exhaust are rusted out. ill send them away to get fixed and get a new exhaust.
one of the leads fell apart when i pulled it out!
flywheel is worn from the starter motor, and a bit rusty around the edge.

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posted on December 12th, 2008 at 05:29 PM



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here it is - my 58 dub. and here is the plan.
de-crome the body and paint it grey.
get it as low as (legallyish) i can, with 2' narrowed adjustable beam and adjustable spring plates.
extractors of course


Do you mean something like this ???

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posted on December 12th, 2008 at 05:55 PM



Yeah camo thats cool. maybe abit lower.

this is the look im after, with empi 5 spokes. does any one know the owner? - they read my mind!

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posted on December 13th, 2008 at 04:16 PM



progress today. nearly all stripped out. wasn't too hard as there was no interior when i bought it, just the seats.
only thing i couldn't get out was the wiper and headlight switches. frustrating.
start sanding next week

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posted on December 13th, 2008 at 04:39 PM



looks good man :tu:
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posted on December 13th, 2008 at 09:55 PM



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leave da body orig n lower is cool..
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thumbup.gif posted on December 13th, 2008 at 10:37 PM



That is one amazing original 58 I'd leave it as original as possible as well, Only paint/repair what you have to... A few period items and a little lower with a nice set of BRM's

Just my two bobs worth :cool:

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posted on December 14th, 2008 at 11:31 AM



thanks for the interest everyone.
i wish the paint was original - i'd leave it. but she's had a respray thats not the best, with runs and cracks.
otherwise everything else will be stock. I've always wanted a bug that is clean, smooth and low. something nice to drive to work in.

this is the second beetle i've owned. here is the first- the most enjoyable car i've driven.

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ahhh now that you mention it has had a very amateur respray I can understand why you would want to repaint it. It looks original in the photos. Photos always make things appear better then they really are :lol: I do like the colour though. I think grey is cool and would'nt mind a grey VW myself.

Whatever you decide to do with it should look great

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posted on December 15th, 2008 at 08:22 AM



if you are still stuck with the switches try putting a precision ground tool (nail) through the hole in the shaft to get the knobs off. then if the escutchons are tight you could try making up a "bodge" tool like shown in the pics. i held it in a set of vice grips. please note if you don't get the angles sort of correct or don't hold it in the hole properly it may chew the eschutchon.

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posted on December 15th, 2008 at 10:14 AM
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i just bought a house with a 58 bug included in the sale, it looks similar to yours except its white, pretty well rust free too, im wandering what to do with it, will have to see how yours ends up for inspiration:)



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posted on December 15th, 2008 at 07:03 PM



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i just bought a house with a 58 bug included in the sale, it looks similar to yours except its white, pretty well rust free too, im wandering what to do with it, will have to see how yours ends up for inspiration:)


Oh steve you just cant help yourself can you, you bought the house because it has the car attached didnt you




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i just bought a house with a 58 bug included in the sale, it looks similar to yours except its white, pretty well rust free too, im wandering what to do with it, will have to see how yours ends up for inspiration:)


Oh steve you just cant help yourself can you, you bought the house because it has the car attached didnt you
:lol: yeh well i did originally look at the car first:)




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posted on December 16th, 2008 at 10:35 AM



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posted on February 19th, 2009 at 05:14 PM
some progress


Here is where I'm up to. All that is left to sand back are the doors and the inside. Now that I dont have any hard exams to study for I can finish what I started. The only disappointing thing is I cant find extractors for the 36hp. Oh well that just means I'll HAVE to get a 1600 or similar!

here are some pics of what has been lurking under the paint, someone elses handywork!

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posted on February 19th, 2009 at 05:21 PM
and then..


here she is nearly naked

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posted on April 17th, 2009 at 08:25 PM
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Today the 58 went to the panel shop to get some rust cut out and welded. Ordered the paint aswell, Platinum grey, as seen on the new vw jetta. finally achieveing some goals. just waiting for mr rudd to buy me a new beam! will post pics when my phone/camera wants to talk to the computer! found some sample pics to compare....

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posted on June 1st, 2009 at 09:44 PM



Hey bugking.
My bro said his looking at your computer atm at Computer Dencity :)
Should go for a cruise some time when your beetle is finished.




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