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 izac
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 posted on April 21st, 2009 at 07:57 PM |
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Have put engine back in but now it doesnt work??? solved. now onto next problem
have posted this already in my mebers rides threads but thought it might get answered more quickly here...
i cant get the ignition working..
i wired everything back up and went to turn the the key and...nothing. the lights dont come on or anything and pressing the button does nothing of
course.
im sure its wired up correctly. i took note of how it was before i took it out. red wire to generator on upper + terminal and green wire below. green
wire connector has only got half a connector on the end though (has been broken so is a bit loose but there is contact).
is it possible that the battery has gone dead while ive had the motor out?
please help
cheers
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:00 PM |
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Dumb question...... do you have both terminals on the battery?
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:01 PM |
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Yes, the battery will go flat just sitting there. How long has the engine been out?
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:04 PM |
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you need a multimeter or test lamp at least
is it kicking over??
If it isnt kicking the starter motor over then this is a different problem all together
If you are then you need to see if you are getting juice to the coil
It is highly unlikely that the battery would have gone flat - you should at least get a "click click"
Maybe you havent done it up right??
You DID put it in the right way??
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:11 PM |
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Is there a rotor in your dizzy?
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:12 PM |
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11cab - yes both + and - terminals are connected.
trickysimon - its been out for a bout 3 weeks.
Bizzare - the starter isnt kicking over at all, no click click noise. when i turn the key nothing happens at all... yeah feel pretty silly 
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by squizy
Is there a rotor in your dizzy?
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yep
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:34 PM |
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so no lights on the dash or anything. hazards?? nothing...?? Even if something was wired wrong, you would have this, so either the battery leads are
the wrong way around, or your battery is flat.
Its probably something simple mate! Just check and double check  I know
how you feel.
If all else fails, call your mate round!
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:39 PM |
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yeah il double check those battery leads but im pretty sure there correct. + goes to engine and - goes to ground right?
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:41 PM |
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sounds right to me. the red should go to + and black go to -
Have you get any lights... hazards should work always.... if they dont, you got a dead battery
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 08:50 PM |
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il see if the indicators work tomorrow as im at work right now.. will let u know cheers
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| posted on April 21st, 2009 at 10:47 PM |
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just get a piece of wire and touch the + and - on the battery and see if it sparks..............I think your battery is dead.
Is it 6 volts or 12 volts??
my 6 volt cars seem to go flat if i dont drive them for 2 weeks.
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 AM |
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hey glen
it is a 6 volt battery... it DOES gives a spark when i touch both the + and - so i dont think its dead... but...
i tightened up both connectors on the terminals but still nothing on the ignition.
Jason - no indicator, no headlights nothing.
whats going on?
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 11:58 AM |
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A multi meter across the terminal when you kick it over would be good
You could be getting an internal short when you try to put a heavy load through it and it is dropping to bugger all volts when you try and start it
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 12:29 PM |
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il try and borrow one of a mate from work tonight...
if it ends up that it is dropping to a low voltage does this mean i have to replace the battery? if so where do you get 6v car batteries from?
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 02:14 PM |
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checked to see if there were any fuse blown, but they alll looked alright... and also checked the wire to the starter solenoid that was alright as
well..
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 04:16 PM |
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sounds like you have a bad connection somewhere
even if a battery is very flat it can still normally bring on a pair of 1.2w idiot lights
wheres the regulator on a 6v type3?
check that none of the main B+ wires have come off it
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 05:56 PM |
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there is alone wire in behind the dash that is the major feed to everything so under the bonnet and find i bet it's of how do i know do you have a
day or two to hear the sad tale
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| posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 PM |
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Izac,
Have you got a wiring diag? Here's a type 3 online selection if you haven't :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiringt3.php
You really need a test light at minimum as Bizarre has already suggested if you are going to delve into wiring.
To start you off, the power feed to ignition switch goes battery + ->regulator->Light switch->fuse box->ign switch.
Enjoy
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 09:43 AM |
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Hey, I can drop you the idiots book tonight if you want.... spark plug gapper too if you want... Did you not want that breather box, cause i can get
that this arvo for you if you want it.
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 AM |
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jason - pm sent
ok am going down stairs to do some investigating with multimeter and wiring diagram in hand. thanks for that ctefeh
il let u know how i go
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 AM |
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ok problem solved!!  
The lead coming from the regulator was just hanging on by a thread so i pushed it back on and.... wolla! starts like a dream!!
now i just have to do some fine tuning on the linkage and move the generator a bit.... there was some smoke coming from it  i think its not quite in position properly.
thanks for your help guys  i will try and post a video of how it
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 12:08 PM |
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hey, send me a message, would you rather me come tomorrow morning and give you a hand, I didnt get the breather he said its not needed, and there are
better ways to do it, and he wanted more than i thought. I can come in the morning and see if we can come up with something, or i can just drop some
stuff off, and i could help you sat/sun some time.... If you want send
me a txt.
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 01:26 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by izac
ok problem solved!!
The lead coming from the regulator was just hanging on by a thread so i pushed it back on and.... wolla! starts like a dream!!
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you owe me a beer now 
just kidding, love it when its something simple
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 05:35 PM |
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yeah cheers joel i do 
well it runs like a cut snake!! it is awesome so responsive!
the only thing is the idle speed is to fast... i have adjusted the idle speed screw right down until the throttle stops dont touch them.. and adjusted
the mixture screws which helped a bit but it is still to fast.
when you start it up it has a nice slow idle but it then gets faster... i have a suspicion that it is to do with the tension on the accelerator cable
on the linkage.. i have to hold my foot on the pedal when i first start it up so maybe the cable gets stuck in that position and it is idling with the
throttle partly open..
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 05:54 PM |
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Did you disturb your dizzy with the engine out. You may have altered the timing and the engine is too far advanced? What idle jet did you end up
putting in?
Cheers
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 05:57 PM |
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Also run it with the throttle cable disconnected just to eliminate any sticky cable or pedal issues.
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 05:59 PM |
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all i did to the dizzy was check the gap... thats all. if it was to far advanced would that explain the speeding up?
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 06:05 PM |
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idle jet is a 52.
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| posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 PM |
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lets do this!
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