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Are Veedubbers the Ricers of the past?
i think its fair to say that im a 'new generation' dubber, but i wonder, as i see some of the 'ricers' around town and at times laugh at them and
think 'why would you bother' - would this have been the reaction of those 'hotting up' their Veedubs in the 70s and 80s.
Are the Excels of today, with their body kits, spoilers and added weight with standard engines, equivalent to the veedubs of the 70s and 80s.
In what light were they seen?
I assume the V8 boys would have laughed at the humble Veedub the same way they still do now at any 4 cylinder.
keen to hear some thoughts.
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 10:55 AM |
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slow day at work mate... :P
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 AM |
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An interesting thought but think this, a VW from the 60's/70's can do infinite Kilometres and still keep going, i think youd be lucky to get
200,000km out of a Hyundai or anything of similar quality. Kinda hard to compare them when VW's are in a completly (higher) different league. Also
VW's can be made to handle better and perform better, ricers today are only good for ugly body kits and farty exhaust notes
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 AM |
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we use to go street drag racing back in the 80s at Kooragang island and there was lots of fast veedubs and datos.the V8 boys didn't laugh long
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 AM |
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I don't know about that ryan. I owned a corolla that had done close to 400 000 ks and my current one has done 340 000 and still going strong. I love
volkswagens but you have to admit that ricers, well toyotas atleast, are crazy reliable
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 AM |
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i think there is one thing that we can all agree on, hyundi's are crap.
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:24 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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i think there is one thing that we can all agree on, hyundi's are crap.
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yeah back in the 80s there was a few Turbo vw and holdens getting around
do they turbo excels??
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 AM |
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people may turbo excels... but that doesnt make them any less crap...
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 AM |
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my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank
nothing crap about that
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 AM |
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good onya colonel mustard
upsetting a Hyundai owner
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:47 AM |
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Still not as bad as those EVOs.....aye Craig?
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:52 AM |
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my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank
nothing crap about that
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Yeah but we are also assuming you havent tried to make it look fast or put Supercheap tart up accessories on it?
Most V8 heads dont give cred to anything else but those with a brain would understand the quality of the VW and in fact you can get them to go hard
and still have reliability. There have been few worked Hyundais going around with turbo kits but its all the hardware around them that fails even if
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 AM |
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Should I bother explaining myself... no. I just dislike hyundi's. And yes, I do know the i30 deisel gets nearly 1000km's to a tank. but, you may not
ever get to fill up more than 200 times..
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 AM |
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Sorry to sound like that Dave, i wouldnt really consider a corolla a ricer, cause i do realise they go forever aswell. And generally ricers a flogged
and mistreated, theirfore dont last long....... right? Also hyundai's arn't neccessarily crap, you simply get what you pay for. Now the real nasty
crap cars would be Kia's, they're absolutly shocking
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:05 PM |
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hmmm...i guess im more after the whole 'image' of it. I assume veedubs wouldn't of been viewed as a luxury or fancy car right? So those that were
'done up', would others think 'why bother' etc.
Just interested of the history of it - i didnt get to live it!
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ryana89
An interesting thought but think this, a VW from the 60's/70's can do infinite Kilometres and still keep going, i think youd be lucky to get
200,000km out of a Hyundai or anything of similar quality. Kinda hard to compare them when VW's are in a completly (higher) different league. Also
VW's can be made to handle better and perform better, ricers today are only good for ugly body kits and farty exhaust notes
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not exactly
they have a good life span of engines from that era but its not real good by todays standards
type1 engines are due for atleast a headjob by 100,000 miles which is only 160,000km and most need a bottom end freshen up not long after that
the factory engine from DUB74L has 380,000ish K on it but is on its 2nd rebuild and not far off needing a tickle up
korean coffee tins are crap but they still generally make high 200s if they arent owned by a dumbass who thinks checking the oil is done by the
mechanic every 6 months
Bloke over the road has a 96 Excel which has 327k on the clock with an untouched engine and i saw plenty of otthers like that working at the garage
still doesnt change the fact i hate them
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:15 PM |
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but what have you spent on repair bills
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posted by kombibob
my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank
nothing crap about that
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:26 PM |
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So its all down to the owner pretty much wether the car will last..... 327,000!!!! on an excel WOW, simply goes to show what looking after a car can
do
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:35 PM |
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yeah country cars always have longer lives than city cars too
my mates 68 beetle is a country car and has over 1million KMs on it
its on engine #3 which current has close on 200,000miles on it but still runs amazingly well just gets oil light flicker at idle when its hot
there was a 2001 fairlane forsale here yesterday thats an ex hire car and has 690,000kms on the clock
thats taxi status
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 PM |
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Just hire Running on Empty and you will learn what it was like back in the 80's all great classic movie. Come to think of it I might dust it off and
watch it this week end.
Back in the 80's there where no crappy ricer cars. The dato's use to get looked at but nothing like the silly ricer cars today. I use to own a
6cyl HR holden that I had fur on the dash and velvet on the door trims and a alpine stereo with a seperate equaliser, lumpy cam etc and lowered whick
I thought was pretty cool.
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:37 PM |
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Are Veedubbers the Ricers of the past , Nope
1200 Datos, 120y 200b, ford lasers, Galants, Mazda
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 PM |
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u left out leyland marinas and chrysler centuras
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:42 PM |
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Hmm just wondering, are their ricer owners that actually change anything mechanical to their car... other than a farty exhaust?
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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not a thing in the last 2 years i have owned it, and it does 110ks a day up and down a mountain.
el concreto also does 110 ks a day up and down the mountain uses much more fuel and needs more attention than just an oil change once i a while to
keep doing it.
trust me i love my dubs like a crazy man but for a cheap realiable car there is nothing wrong with a excel, but no i would never want to rice it up it
even came with 17" wheels when i bought it and i replace them with standards straight away. lol
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but what have you spent on repair bills
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my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank
nothing crap about that
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:50 PM |
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only some bits from fatiguing rocker studs from drag racing my bug maybe around $100
And all I pay for the Hilux is just service items just $3.50/ltr of oill and $3.80 for oil filter service items for the Hilux
You are a very lucky owner than for an excel not to cost you any extra money.
I think the Hilux is made in Tailand now so it's probably just as crappy as an excel
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 12:59 PM |
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there are very few non vw cars that i would own..... a hyundi is not one of them
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 04:00 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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we use to go street drag racing back in the 80s at Kooragang island and there was lots of fast veedubs and datos.the V8 boys didn't laugh long
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Would you believe it still goes on today over there. Gone are the days of big webbers and hollies of a thumping N/A car, replaced with the turbos of
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 04:04 PM |
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This is a funny question when you think about it. I was customising my beetle back in the 70's and going to rodruns all over the UK and most of the
runs I went to I'd be the only VW there and I'm talking of a period of around 5 years. People looked at me like I was wierd. You could customise an
Escort or Cortina and that was fine, a Mini that was acceptable but a VW? That was plain silly. Beach buggies were also looked upon as a cheap and
easy way of getting a custom car(??!) but I had mates who were into 55/56/57 Chevys (they were older than me) and during a drunken session once I
heard that at least one of them wanted a buggy but was more worried about what his mates would think if he bought a VW! BTW jap cars were NEVER seen
at any meeting I ever went to then and that was up to about '82.
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Following on from Ian Mezzs' comment I went to a meeting of the Mid Kent Roadsters back in about 79 and one of the organisers drove a nearly standard
looking VW complete with roofrack but when they started the 1/8th mile dragstrip any car that won he'd challenge for a race. Only one car beat him at
the time and that was a Jag engined T-bucket called Desperado, he beat every V8 engined car that raced but would never open his engine lid. I looked
underneath and he had a VW engine in it but a year or so after I first see him I found out he had nitrous injection!! And that's back 30 years ago.
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| posted on November 6th, 2009 at 09:20 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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there are very few non vw cars that i would own..... a hyundi is not one of them
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