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| posted on January 13th, 2010 at 08:35 PM |
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big brake upgrade
hi guys,
im wondering if anyone knows of where to go to get my front brakes upgraded to a bigger size. im in vic but willing to get things sent over from other
states providing the cost and quality warrants.
I believe the brakes are all standard size. fronts are disc rears are drum would consider doing rears but not sure at the moment.
As i have the rims that i want and dont want to get new ones i dont want to have to change too much. the rims are 14" X 6" bathurst globes to suit
early vw type 3s 4 stud
Ive looked at hoppers stoppers site but couldnt find anything, not sure about other places.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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| posted on January 13th, 2010 at 10:06 PM |
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search for big brakes on here, from what i know, make life easy you have 3 options,
1-maintain the originals, add better pads & get vented or drilled discs whatever tickles your pickle
2- vwcool's brake upgrade - theres 2 big threads about it on here & a few people with them that may be able to help you
3- porsche 944 turbo brakes, 66deluxe has them & steve carter has them on the rear of daves L bug
depends how easy you can source bits & peices, keep in mind with gear from overseas you may not be able to get it approved & also consider
availability of pads etc in future 
what kind of vw this is going on will make a difference in price too, im curious what kind of car its going on too...
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 06:02 AM |
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what type and year model car do you have
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tmerivale
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 05:30 PM |
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ahhh heres the problem, its an old kit car, its a Eureka, but i have no idea, it has a police number so not sure what size engine underneath it says
something about mexico and i know that its an IRS model... i can try to take some pics but the ones i currently have are too big to upload. ill try to
turn the resolutions down before i take some pics and see if this helps.
Thanks for the help so far stidub
ok here are some pics now
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 05:51 PM |
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Why do you want to upgrade??
Stock brakes are good for a significant improvement in HP
Type 3 drums on the back helps a lot
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 05:59 PM |
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it has a police number
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Yikes - what's a "police number" - hope you don't mean a defect or impound notice !!!
Some pics of the front and rear suspension will help those in the know identify things. Pretty sure Eureka's were still built as a pan car, so even
knowing the chassis number would help (on the tunnel, just in front of the gearbox)
Also re STIDUB's comments - I run 944 Turbo calipers on my race bug. AWESOME setup and very happy with them, but if I had my time over again I'd
probably go with one of VWCOOL's kits... simple as to fit, and seem like excellent value for $$$.
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 06:11 PM |
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my engine number is "V853385P" the p is a police number when the block hadnt had a previous number or something so ive been told. i went to vicroads
and they have said that it is a 1983 purvis eureka according to their records, but was last registered in 1987. will be doing a full rebuild, with
motor and transaxle getting sent away but will keep the floor pan that is in it now. its not too bad. the eureka i reckon is easiest described as a
beetle with a body kit, you take off the beetle shell and drop on the fibre glass body bolt everything in alter a few small bits and pieces and away
you go.
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 06:22 PM |
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ok finally found the chassis number it is 133 242 0166 (i hope that is correct if not its very close)
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 06:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bizarre
Why do you want to upgrade??
Stock brakes are good for a significant improvement in HP
Type 3 drums on the back helps a lot
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im looking at getting my eureka a nice big healthy worked 1916 pobjoy not his base 1916 though. im not interested in politics dont want to hear go
with this guy dont go with that guy blah blah blah. i would like to be able to hit low mid to low 13s maybe even quicker. i know theres guys out there
that are getting slightly quicker with a bit over 130hp atw.
i want the brakes to be able to pull my car up. my dad had one in 1977 and his weighed 750kg with a full tank of juice (was a 1300 motor with worked
heads)
i want this as cheap as possible BUT I WILL NOT SUBSTITUTE QUALITY if need be a couple of gorrilas could be thrown at the brakes. i have drums on the
back but dont know from what. thanks for your input bizarre
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 06:40 PM |
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Ok - fair enough
130 ponies warrants a brake upgrade 
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 07:03 PM |
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new stock vw brakes work good, I mean new everything after all most vw are 40 year old these days.
I have 177hp subaru motor and my brakes work fine after all the vw is only a lite car.
dont waste your money with a vw motor go the subaru after all
your car is allready been cut up.
links below
the subaru $500 motors have the most power. I have the 2 worked red vw with $7000 motors max hp 77 and the subaru is so much better. every thing over
77hp is subaru powered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q_hJU9pd3A
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 07:11 PM |
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Stay with good VW for now to save the coin for that engine. VW brakes work well when good (as new) condition.
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 07:26 PM |
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at the moment i dont need engineers cert, and want to stay clear from them as much as possible. its been registered with a vw motor and thats the way
i wanna keep it. no need for mucking around with radiators or lots of electrical work. personal opinion.
not trying to be smart alec but do you have a dyno print on your donk ian.mezz? please dont take that the wrong way just curious thats all
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 07:32 PM |
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oops yeah my 177hp is a subaru motor, heaps of fun.
my low hp motors are vw.
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 07:37 PM |
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at the moment i dont need engineers cert, and want to stay clear from them as much as possible. its been registered with a vw motor and thats the way
i wanna keep it. no need for mucking around with radiators or lots of electrical work. personal opinion.
not trying to be smart alec but do you have a dyno print on your donk ian.mezz? please dont take that the wrong way just curious thats all
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 07:50 PM |
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The Police engine number will probably mean that it has had one of those brand-new crate engines from Mexico at some stage, rather than being an
original German crankcase. As for brakes, I'd think that factory VW stuff with good pads should be good enough even with the extra horsepower, don't
forget that it's only pulling up a very light car. I'm not sure what a Eureka weighs but it can't be more than 750kg.
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 08:06 PM |
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The Police engine number will probably mean that it has had one of those brand-new crate engines from Mexico at some stage, rather than being an
original German crankcase. As for brakes, I'd think that factory VW stuff with good pads should be good enough even with the extra horsepower, don't
forget that it's only pulling up a very light car. I'm not sure what a Eureka weighs but it can't be more than 750kg.
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i think your right on the money for the police number, in regards to weight your spot on... good stuff buddy
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 08:19 PM |
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so what year and model would my car be with the chassis number being "133 242 0166"?
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 08:29 PM |
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so what year and model would my car be with the chassis number being "133 242 0166"?
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http://www.eurekacarclub.com.au/page/models.htm
1973
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 08:34 PM |
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Yeah, like Ian said - the pan is a 1973.
Ball joint front beam and an IRS rear end.
I've never minded the old Eureka's... with some TLC, could be a pretty hot lookin car !!!
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 09:00 PM |
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thanks guys for the warm welcome and solid info. i hate it when you just chase your tail.
my eureka is the f4 model same as my dads. both never had the lambo scoop air intake or any spoilers... that stuff turns them into more of a jap
looking car in my opinion. my car will be kept white on top and black underneath. considering much later picking up a gtech meter and using that as
the tacho. but ill see what happens, i have a couple of years to go before i need to seriously think about that stuff. not sure ifr they are "legal"
or not though. as i said im looking at rebuilding the whole car, so if anyone wants to recommend any products to me that are better than others or
what brands to stay clear from that would be good. looking at doing the front end first (steering and suspension) then the rear suspension motor
transaxle then all the interior goodies if i dont pick things up in between.
Motor will be covered but a good quality trans that would be suitable for decent power will be needed.
oh and in regards to model i was meaning what model bug, not eureka i already knew that one, but thanks ian
the blue one was my dads when he had it
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 09:38 PM |
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perhaps the issue of vwma from 2-3 issues ago with the targa bound eureka would be worth a read, i recall it had an interesting brake setup (free plug
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| posted on January 14th, 2010 at 10:00 PM |
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You mentioned that you would like to stay away from engineers certificates, and this being the case, the only option would be to stick to VW
brakes..........being disc fronts and drum rears, an upgraded version of VW components would be going with type3 calipers on the front and their
bigger drums on the back laso. The latter type3 mentioned components have much more surface area on the brake pads and shoes. Like others have
mentioned, VW brakes would provide ,more than adequate performance for all but the most spirited of driving.
Your choice of wheels and their subsequent stud pattern may influence your choice of brakes also
As for pan year.....there were only TWO years of chassis produced that provide your combination of the ball joint front and independent trailing arm
suspension, being semi auto 1969 and the last models of 1976. However it is possible to convert both front and rear ends of 90% beetle pans to the
combination you have..........SOOOOOOOOOOO, in reference to ordering parts simply ask for BALL JOINT front and IRS rear and you should get what you
need
Gotta love a good Eureka, nice that you appear to be following the family tradition
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the first picture of my dads has always been blown up to poster size and hung up on the wall, fell in love with it when i was quite young, i loved it
as soon as my dad was telling me about it. my uncle half way through 09 had been discussing with me one day that you can still get them sometimes for
only a few gorrilas on flea bay (there was only 683 ever built)... searched for a couple of months then brought my baby home... more than enough work
to keep me out of trouble for a little while. i suppose when i have a few spare dollars something will get done.
id say being a member of the eureka forum most have foreign motors but there are still quite a few with the good old dak dak
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