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Reverse Lights?
Hi Everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me
if the 71 Bug had reverse lights when it
came out? I had my bug rewired today
but I wasn't sure if I should have reverse
lights or not. The light casing on my bug
has a reverse light though.
Hope that makes sense lol
Have to go to work will check back later
Thanks in advance 
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 03:47 PM |
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Reverse lights first came out in 72 as far as I know
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 03:51 PM |
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Not sure if it was out then but worthwhile having them anyway. Just check that you also have the ability to fit a reversing light bulb as well. Just
because the lens has the clear section, doesn't mean you can fit a bulb under that. You will need to take off the lens and look at the silver
fitting underneath to check if there is a plug position underneath the brake light bulb.
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 04:42 PM |
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as above reverse lights didnt start till 72
the 68-71 lenses with no reverse light arent availble new so thats the reason so many have reverse light lenses fitted
they can be fitted but it takes some wiring and parts.
the switch needs to be fitted to the gearbox and although the light housings have the mounting hole for the reverse lights they dont have the actual
bulb holder
i wouldnt bother honestly its not like they throw out usable light anyway
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 04:58 PM |
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My 69 has an external reversing light fitted to the rear bar. It is wired to a switch in the gearbox but requires the car to be moving reverse before
the light activates rather than working off the gear lever position.
It is kinda strange when you start reversing the light comes on but if you stop and change gears to 1st the light is still on untill the car starts
moving forward then it extinguishes.
Because it is an external light it does light up area you are reversing into which is good.
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 05:03 PM |
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Ours do light up behind the rear when you are reversing but I think the more important things is that it lets others now you are about to reverse.
Could save a lot of grief in the car park.
Yogie
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 05:31 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sherbie
Hi Everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me
if the 71 Bug had reverse lights when it
came out? I had my bug rewired today
but I wasn't sure if I should have reverse
lights or not. The light casing on my bug
has a reverse light though.
Hope that makes sense lol
Have to go to work will check back later
Thanks in advance
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ITS JUST THE LENSE...
Aussie beetles didn't have reverse lights in 68-69-70-71
I always add the bulbs to the light fittings
and I have a switch at the rear of the speedo that switches them ON, when the speedo cable goes backwards...
so, until the LHS front wheel goes backwards...
no lights...
then they go on....
and stay ON until the wheel goes forwards again...
reversing Lights work great...
just 21 watt bulbs in the place they were meant to be..
just soldered a wire to the bottom...
or You can get bulb holders...
LEE
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 05:34 PM |
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Hi
I agree they are good as an indication to other drivers that your about to reverse a freind had really bad incident when he was waiting to reverse in
his 1500 bug with another driver, he defused by saying to other guy,"well show where the reverse light are supposed to be on this car".
We have a 100 metre long driveway that we sometimes have to reverse up, I fitted some 50 watt halogen bulbs to my sons bug, these are made by Phillips
(pn# 795XB1) and are about $15 each.
I just bought another 4, 2 for my sons Skyline and 2 for my bug, the misses can buy her own.
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The bulbs in my sons car 
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 05:39 PM |
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those halogen lights get VERY Hot Steve...
I think they may melt My lenses..??
I suppose it depends on how long they are on for...
and the 1303 lamps are much bigger in area too
for the heat to disperse...
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 06:55 PM |
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dangerous dave will be able to confirm when it started but most gearboxes before 72 just have a blank bung in the nose cose that can be swapped for a
reverse light switch
definately all the 68 on ones atleast
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 07:31 PM |
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Hi Lee
The Phillips tech guy said don't use them when you go camping to set up your tent by, no issues so far, put them in last July.
Steve
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 09:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Paulc1964au
My 69 has an external reversing light fitted to the rear bar. It is wired to a switch in the gearbox but requires the car to be moving reverse before
the light activates rather than working off the gear lever position.
It is kinda strange when you start reversing the light comes on but if you stop and change gears to 1st the light is still on untill the car starts
moving forward then it extinguishes.
Because it is an external light it does light up area you are reversing into which is good.
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Are you sure it is a switch in the box as we used to fit a switch to the speedo cable prior to 1972,as the vehicle started travelling backwards the
switch turned the reverse lights on,when travelling forward the switch turned off.
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 09:35 PM |
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Hi Lee
The Phillips tech guy said don't use them when you go camping to set up your tent by, no issues so far, put them in last July.
Steve
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Yes
the normal time reverse lights are on isn't long...
but if You forgot , especially with My speedo cable switch which stays on until You actually move forward a bit... lol
I haven't seen those QH bulbs with that base before...
cheers
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| Quote: | Originally
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My 69 has an external reversing light fitted to the rear bar. It is wired to a switch in the gearbox but requires the car to be moving reverse before
the light activates rather than working off the gear lever position.
It is kinda strange when you start reversing the light comes on but if you stop and change gears to 1st the light is still on untill the car starts
moving forward then it extinguishes.
Because it is an external light it does light up area you are reversing into which is good.
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Are you sure it is a switch in the box as we used to fit a switch to the speedo cable prior to 1972,as the vehicle started travelling backwards the
switch turned the reverse lights on,when travelling forward the switch turned off.
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Yes sounds like the switch I have in mine..
lights stay on until the front wheel moves about 12 inches approx..
I believe the reverse switch in the gearbox would go off as soon as You moved the gearlever as thats what activates it
and Grumble...
I hadn't seen one of those hella speedo switches before..
apart from in My beetle..
so, it seems they aren't rare.. lol
LEE
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| posted on May 27th, 2010 at 10:56 PM |
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Thanks everyone for the great replies.
I didn't think 71's came out with reverse
lights.
For now I am happy just to have high & low
beam I have been driving on my high beams
for a few weeks. The reason I got her re-wired
was due to the headlight situation & she was
cutting out all together when I put my brakes on.
I have ordered some new tail-lights so will get
them back out to wire up some reverse lights once
we put them in.
I am just happy to have a car that works properly now lol.
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| posted on May 28th, 2010 at 08:51 AM |
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Hi
I saw an interesting reverse light switch on bug once, it was a door contact switch on a special bracket on the shift coupling, when reverse was
selected the switch made contact with the chassis.
I used to have one of those reverse light switches on speedo cable on my Beetle rally car, if I made a mistake and had to reverse in a forest it was
pretty scary waiting for the light to come on.
Steve
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| posted on May 28th, 2010 at 02:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sherbie
Thanks everyone for the great replies.
I didn't think 71's came out with reverse
lights.
For now I am happy just to have high & low
beam I have been driving on my high beams
for a few weeks. The reason I got her re-wired
was due to the headlight situation & she was
cutting out all together when I put my brakes on.
I have ordered some new tail-lights so will get
them back out to wire up some reverse lights once
we put them in.
I am just happy to have a car that works properly now lol.
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You've been driving on hi beam????
My beetle high beam went out on My way home from the VW nationals on Sunday afternoon..
I drove most of the 300kms on Low Beam up the Putty road
I tried My high Beam about 30kms from home, and it changed to High beam, but wouldn't change back to Low so I had to stop... as I wouldn't drive in
High beam..
and eventually found Low beam again... [after 20 minutes]
Not fair to oncoming traffic.... driving on HIGH Beam..
also illegal..
LEE
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Not a good thing for Rallying Steve...
I had a Mitsubishi Galant years ago.... [chysler badged]
and you are only supposed to go forwards... lol
in Rallying...
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Not a good thing for Rallying Steve...LEE
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Hi Lee
Blame it on the navigator, its a bit of shock after driving behind 4 Cibies and then having to go into reverse.
Steve
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talking about lights Steve,
I used 4 Big Hellas [cibie too expensive..lol]
but the normal Hi/Lo beam in My galant I bought Cibie headlamps
with spotlamps built in...
I should have kept them... but they were 5 3/4...
Never seen any 7 inch of those...
that was back in the 70s..
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Hi Lee
Still have the Cibies, I sometimes fit them to my son Davids car.
There was some Cibie Biodes 7 inch headlights like you described on Ebay a while back, they went for silly money, around $400.
I wish I had kept some bits of my old rally car, it had many VW works team bits on it that were scrounged by the previous owner, I sold the car with a
Halda twinmaster and all sorts of goodeis for $600 with rego.
The car was a 30th birthday present from my wife, she bought from an old friend of mine, when I started doing shift work I couldn't compete anymore
so I sold it.
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sherbie
Thanks everyone for the great replies.
I didn't think 71's came out with reverse
lights.
For now I am happy just to have high & low
beam I have been driving on my high beams
for a few weeks. The reason I got her re-wired
was due to the headlight situation & she was
cutting out all together when I put my brakes on.
I have ordered some new tail-lights so will get
them back out to wire up some reverse lights once
we put them in.
I am just happy to have a car that works properly now lol.
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You've been driving on hi beam????
My beetle high beam went out on My way home from the VW nationals on Sunday afternoon..
I drove most of the 300kms on Low Beam up the Putty road
I tried My high Beam about 30kms from home, and it changed to High beam, but wouldn't change back to Low so I had to stop... as I wouldn't drive in
High beam..
and eventually found Low beam again... [after 20 minutes]
Not fair to oncoming traffic.... driving on HIGH Beam..
also illegal..
LEE
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Yes, I was on high beam BUT my high beam was not bright at all due to the wiring so you couldn't tell I was on high beam...My high beams were the
equilavent of low beam. hence why I had my bug re-wired.
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Hi
I rewired My beetle during its restoration..
and its new Hella H4s are excellent headlights...
You wouldn't be able to drive towards Me.. lol
Lee
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