| [ Total Views: 2282 | Total Replies: 31 | Thread Id: 84495 ] |
| Pages: 1 2 |
|
|
 vicelore
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 254
Threads: 33
Registered: February 11th, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Somerville Vic
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Grey
|
 posted on June 26th, 2010 at 04:04 PM |
|
|
What additive do you add to petrol ?
Hey guys.
Well as stated above..
What additive do you add to petrol ??
Just got my new 1600 twin carb and wanted to know what you guys add to the normal unleaded..
I've been running just normal unleaded yesterday and a little this morning but want to get ontop of it ASAP.
Cheers Vice
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..
|
|
|
ian.mezz
Wolfsburg Elder
I never said, I could write or spell
Posts: 3913
Threads: 280
Registered: September 11th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: Newcastle
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Happy
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 04:10 PM |
|
|
flash lube Kit & 95 or 98 fuel
http://www.flashlube.com/en/valvesaverkit/index.html
|
|
|
silver
Veteran Volks Folk
Dangerous when poked
Posts: 2169
Threads: 162
Registered: December 8th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: In 2 Minds
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 04:24 PM |
|
|
None, as it is not needed 98 ron is all you need
but if you like parting with money go for it
Keeping it real !
|
|
|
Sides
A.k.a.: Dave Sidery
Veteran Volks Folk
Posts: 2220
Threads: 59
Registered: May 20th, 2007
Member Is Offline
Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Need... more... shed... time...
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 04:48 PM |
|
|
I use 98 RON fuel, then all I add is some air and a spark
VWDCQ vice pres & web dude - vwdcqinc.org.au
Join a car club - get car peeps
My toys
'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners |
|
|
vicelore
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 254
Threads: 33
Registered: February 11th, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Somerville Vic
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Grey
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 04:57 PM |
|
|
Geeze never even seen this part of the forum and its like a additive and no addative fight.. thaught there was going to be a simple answer to this
question..
From what iv seen in the past 5 mins.. 98 and a additive would be the go ?
Cheers Vice
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..
|
|
|
 barls
A.k.a.: Mr indestructible
Super Administrator
Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
Posts: 9467
Threads: 295
Registered: June 22nd, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: cruising in denistone east
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
Mood: indestructible? and listening to the voices
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 05:04 PM |
|
|
its 98 and an additive for me all the way. hell its saved my engine once already as it was running very lean at one stage.
|
|
|
SuperOwen
Fahrvergnugen
Posts: 868
Threads: 67
Registered: January 18th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 05:50 PM |
|
|
I personally dont bother with an additive, but from previous experience flashlube will help with valve guide life.
|
|
|
Joel
Scirocco Rare
Now containing 100% E-Wang
Posts: 9368
Threads: 211
Registered: February 14th, 2006
Member Is Offline
Location: Northern Rivers NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Purple
Mood: Tact Level 0.00
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 06:01 PM |
|
|
makes me laugh the way people piss their money away with additives
what hardly anyone realises is USA has not had leaded fuel since the late 60s/early 70s so alll vw twin port heads were made at the factory to run on
regular unleaded
Only time its an issue is if the heads were rebuilt at some stage with very low grade seats which generally isnt the case
if it makes you sleep easier put the additives in but if your cooling system is all in check, timings right and carb's sweet a stock motor will be
happy on reg unleaded.
My first original 1600 which i built over 12 years ago now has done 60,000+kms as speedo cable was snapped for about 6 months and has only run on
straight unleaded except when it was supercharged then i ran 95 in it and it still has perfect compression and runs beautifully.
thats a stock motor though, anything better run premuim but fact remains due to it being a slower burn you need to set the time to suit otherwise its
gonna run like crap
|
|
|
68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 06:13 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by vicelore
Hey guys.
Well as stated above.. What addative do you add to petrol ?? Just got my new 1600 twin carb and wanted to know what you guys add to the normal
unleaded.. Iv been running just normal unleaded yesterday and a little this morning but want to get ontop of it ASAP.
Cheers Vice
|
[size=4]Normal unleaded is being phased out very fast..
what was known as E10 is now being labelled as Unleaded + Ethanol
and My standard beetle engine doesn't like the BP product..
There are some Shell servos in NSW still selling "normal" unleaded which is what I've been running in My beetle..
I have never used an additive for valve lubrication...
I know many VW owners do... and it can't hurt..
as Lead was a lubricant back in the Leaded fuel days..
so, I would agree that a valve lubricant can't be bad when using ethanol petrol...
LEE
PS: Ethanol is not available in some states of the US...
and it was illegal in Western Australia last time i looked. Lee
[/size]
- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
|
|
|
ancientbugger
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1986
Threads: 191
Registered: March 24th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: sunshine coast
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 06:55 PM |
|
|
Inside my fuel flap it says to use 91 oct Ron, now I have no idea who Ron is or even if he once owned my car but I generally just use regular
unleaded!
|
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 07:13 PM |
|
|
RON= research octane rating.
dummy terms just octane rating. Unleaded is 91 ron, but it does vary from pump to pump depending on age and quality of the fuel being sold.
I use premium which is 95 to be on the safe side.
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
jjwebb123
A.k.a.: Jason
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 617
Threads: 63
Registered: August 15th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Nrth QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Trying to get it puring
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 09:04 PM |
|
|
thats interesting....good thread.
i use 98 ron and additive.I like lubed valves.lol
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with
courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show
|
|
|
beetleboyjeff
A.k.a.: Jeff Walsh
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1773
Threads: 40
Registered: February 13th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Port Macquarie
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Drive bugs hard
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 09:41 PM |
|
|
I mostly use flashlube - just from a 'windex' type squirt bottle - one squirt per L works about right - and mostly 95ron but sometimes (again,
mainly on the highway) 98ron.
I don't worry so much around town, but if I am working it hard (like on the highway - especially with the trailer full of tools on), I make sure I
use it.
I find the higher octane gets much better mileage on the highway, but doesn't make much difference around town.
From your ole' mate Jeff
|
|
|
68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -
|
 posted on June 26th, 2010 at 09:57 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by ancientbugger
Inside my fuel flap it says to use 91 oct Ron, now I have no idea who Ron is or even if he once owned my car but I generally just use regular
unleaded!
|
unleaded is now 91 Ron... or octane rating
it used to be around 89 ron.. which is NOT enough for a beetle.
I was always going to fill My tank 3/4 full then top up with 95 Ron or octane.. but never did,.. lol
but I used 95 or 98 for a few years... then found 91 ron was OK
until they added Ethanol to it...
so, its back to 95 Premium...
LEE
- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
|
|
|
barls
A.k.a.: Mr indestructible
Super Administrator
Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
Posts: 9467
Threads: 295
Registered: June 22nd, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: cruising in denistone east
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
Mood: indestructible? and listening to the voices
|
| posted on June 26th, 2010 at 10:24 PM |
|
|
the old super use to be 96 ron so you do the figures
|
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on June 27th, 2010 at 12:30 PM |
|
|
it was 97 ron at the mobil in my town. 96 ron was the lead replacement fuel they sold for only about a year and a half. then it was replaced
completely by 91 ulp 
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
grumble
Son of Jim - Creator of Good
Posts: 2668
Threads: 53
Registered: June 10th, 2008
Member Is Offline
Location: Taree
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: happy all the time
|
| posted on June 27th, 2010 at 05:45 PM |
|
|
x2!,It is certainly worth it just for your peace of mind as you don't know until it is too late.
|
|
|
ancientbugger
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1986
Threads: 191
Registered: March 24th, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: sunshine coast
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
|
| posted on June 27th, 2010 at 08:56 PM |
|
|
Mine also says 'Unleaded' but it is a very late model with factory FI and BTW the RON remark was actually a joke. Sorry if you missed it.
|
|
|
vicelore
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 254
Threads: 33
Registered: February 11th, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Somerville Vic
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Grey
|
| posted on June 28th, 2010 at 12:48 PM |
|
|
Well i baught a bottle of the flash lube. i wont be using the kit i was thinking i might just have one of the little squirt bottles in the boot and
give it 30-40 ml before i fill up a tank of premium 98 ... That should be ok yea ?
Cheers Vice..
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..
|
|
|
barls
A.k.a.: Mr indestructible
Super Administrator
Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
Posts: 9467
Threads: 295
Registered: June 22nd, 2004
Member Is Offline
Location: cruising in denistone east
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
Mood: indestructible? and listening to the voices
|
| posted on June 28th, 2010 at 05:48 PM |
|
|
yeah thats fine
|
|
|
vicelore
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 254
Threads: 33
Registered: February 11th, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Somerville Vic
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Grey
|
| posted on June 28th, 2010 at 05:51 PM |
|
|
Cheers man.. Now to use up the tank of normal ULP i put in yesterday...
Vicelore.
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..
|
|
|
jjwebb123
A.k.a.: Jason
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 617
Threads: 63
Registered: August 15th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Nrth QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Trying to get it puring
|
| posted on June 30th, 2010 at 06:51 PM |
|
|
yeh thats exactly what i do mate.Although now that im on apprentice wages
i might have to occasionally change back to normal unleaded instead of premium
im not sure about else where but it is marginally dearer here.
but its all good.
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with
courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show
|
|
|
vicelore
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 254
Threads: 33
Registered: February 11th, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Somerville Vic
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Grey
|
| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 12:26 PM |
|
|
Cool cool..
Cheers Vice
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..
|
|
|
turbobeetz
Learner Dubber
Posts: 17
Threads: 4
Registered: May 12th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on July 2nd, 2010 at 12:55 PM |
|
|
I use 95 or 98 RON straight without any problems...if I am feeling cheap 91 RON with some flash lube.
|
|
|
Uber Kafer
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 414
Threads: 50
Registered: November 12th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Bunbury (BunVegas) WA
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Need a bigger shed..
|
| posted on September 11th, 2010 at 11:20 AM |
|
|
Vicelore, best if you read the instructions for the FlashLube, you will probably find that the mix ratio is 1ml per litre. Otherwise you are wasting
it.
|
|
|
68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -
|
| posted on September 11th, 2010 at 05:20 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by turbobeetz
I use 95 or 98 RON straight without any problems...if I am feeling cheap 91 RON with some flash lube.
|
If its 91 RON Without Bio or ethanol....
GREAT
but ethanol is another problem....
shop about, the smaller servos still have NON ethanol unleaded
and I now use FLASHLUBE in My fuel...
LEE
- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
|
|
|
68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -
|
| posted on September 11th, 2010 at 05:26 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by jjwebb123
yeh thats exactly what i do mate.
Although now that im on apprentice wages
i might have to occasionally change back to normal unleaded instead of premium
im not sure about else where but it is marginally dearer here.
but its all good.
|
Same here with 95 or 98... EXPENSIVE..
one day it was $1-46 for 95 Shell... YIKES...
Now there is still a very small servo in Town with the original NON ethanol unleaded.... $1-28 a liitre..
so that is what I'm using with FlashLube..
ethanol 91 RON was only $1-14 a litre in Newcastle during the week.... in the Suzuki swift...
LEE
- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
|
|
|
vwo60
Veteran Volks Folk
Posts: 2036
Threads: 71
Registered: February 13th, 2007
Member Is Offline
Location: Pomona Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Psyche Blue
Mood: good
|
| posted on September 12th, 2010 at 08:48 AM |
|
|
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, run the flash lube, i know it works, both of the engines in my cars have had hardly any wear on the
valve guides or seats when they were stripped down.
|
|
|
baghall
Custom Title Time!
Ben Hal Outlaw Bushranger
Posts: 1021
Threads: 131
Registered: January 15th, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Penrith NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Psyche Blue
Mood: Kids think I'm obsessed!
|
| posted on September 14th, 2010 at 11:39 PM |
|
|
I run 95 RON + additive. But I was told that ethanol will destroy older fuel systems over time due to being more corrosive, so I only use it under
extreme circumstances (ie nothing else available). By the way, is this correct?
68 Baja - It's a growing pain!
58 Baja ute - and the pain spreads!
85 T3 Kombi - still growing
89 T3 Kombi - parts car
|
|
|
johnl
Slammed & Awesome Dubber
Posts: 75
Threads: 18
Registered: June 4th, 2008
Member Is Offline
Location: Tumbi Umbi
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Mostly Happy
|
| posted on October 12th, 2010 at 06:39 AM |
|
|
I too would like to know this baghall. A mate of mine was over on the weekend and asked what fuel I used in the wifes VW. I told him the cheap stuff
and he suggested that I use the more premium fuel for the very reason that the ethanol corrodes the fuel lines, etc on older cars. Any educated
opinions?
|
|
|
| Pages: 1 2 |
