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 sander288
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 03:09 PM |
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Pedders Shocks
Looking into new shocks, didn't want to spend too much, and I found the Pedders Sportz Ryders.
Has anyone got any sought of experience with these shocks? They cost $127 per shock, which I think I can get down a bit,
But yeah does anyone know how Pedders go?
I have had Monroes on the car for a few years now and they are about had it, they were pretty good when new though, but with these ones I shouldn't
drive too much on rough roads, beaches, 4wd tracks etc... like I did before (ah P plates....)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ibSEOsj4GE
(greg/happy daze if you see that Vid do you think it has the LSD?)
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 03:55 PM |
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Dunno about Pedders at all really - used to run KYB GR-2's on my BJ IRS, and recently gone to Bilstein's.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 05:55 PM |
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Watched the video
Yes, I do think it's a LSD - if it is you're very lucky.
That's salt water that you're playing in! Makes bolts & nuts rust and difficult to undo, doesn't it? 
Cheers, Greg
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 07:49 PM |
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Used pedders once not much success with them r/s after 2 months.and they wernt cheap, they were pretty consistent,all 4 were stuffed cheers you get
what you pay for
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 08:34 PM |
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sorry greg!!
I knew I should of listened to my dad when he said not to....
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 08:41 PM |
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I had a pair of gas sports riders on the back of my first 76 bug. They were fantastic. Car handled like it was on rails. But that was 20 years ago
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 09:51 PM |
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hahaha, the thing with my current monroes is, they were fantastic for about 12 months I reckon, and then they weren't so great... or maybe I got used
to the, I had GT-gas at the back and normal at the front, I figure with the sportz ryders it should be a bit better, but I don't know how much
Koni's or Bilsteins cost yet, so can't compare, I really want to get Bilsteins if they are the right price.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 09:58 PM |
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There is no comparison to Koni. Pay for quality European Dutch developed and made product and you will receive the appropriate quality. They are for
life. They are adjustable. You can have them rebuilt. Not a throw away item.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 PM |
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Lots of variables, wheels, tyres, driving style and type of roads, std or hipo???
But the short answer, forget the pedders, if a budget set is what your after go with Cofap or Boge for a stock ride, KYB for hot street; if a few more
$$ can be spent Konis for adjustability, Bilstein for a more HD style. Boge or KYB should be under $200 a pair, Koni/Billy's for under $400 a pair.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 PM |
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I've got a pair of pedders gas shocks
I only had them on the front for about 30 minutes...
YIKES.... hard as...
I have monroe oil shocks now..
a bit shorter than normal and they are OK..
I don't like gas shocks on the front of a beetle
not enough weight...
but they do keep the front up.. gas pressure..
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| posted on July 23rd, 2010 at 09:21 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
I've got a pair of pedders gas shocks
I only had them on the front for about 30 minutes...
YIKES.... hard as...
I have monroe oil shocks now..
a bit shorter than normal and they are OK..
I don't like gas shocks on the front of a beetle
not enough weight...
but they do keep the front up.. gas pressure..
Lee
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Yes, I should have said that while I had the Pedders gas sports riders on th rear of my 76, I had Monroe hydraulics on the front. Like Lee said, not
my weight on the front, so no need for anything too heavy duty.
This car could leave loads of people behind in the twisty bits, but got smashed on the straights and up hills. But that was a hp issue.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2010 at 09:29 PM |
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Cheers for the replies fellas, been a great help, i'm going to go with Koni's eventually it's going to be after valla though
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| posted on July 24th, 2010 at 07:59 AM |
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The pedder family rally cars use Koni shocks
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| posted on July 24th, 2010 at 08:21 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by sander288
(greg/happy daze if you see that Vid do you think it has the LSD?)
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no it doesnt
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| posted on July 24th, 2010 at 08:47 AM |
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I think you're right, it probably does not.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on July 24th, 2010 at 05:28 PM |
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dam, you had my hopes up! I thought that I had the only factory fitted LSD from VWoA !!! imagine if they did fit them though... 
Looks like i'm going to have to save for the LSD and box rebuild
The pedder family rally cars use Koni shocks - LOL! 
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| posted on July 29th, 2010 at 07:59 PM |
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Rang pedders today chasing koni shocks reply was ahhh we are having trouble finding them.
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| posted on July 29th, 2010 at 08:53 PM |
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Go to this website
http://www.toperformance.com.au/index2.html
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| posted on July 30th, 2010 at 07:42 AM |
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Proven Products used to be Koni dealers. They would re-build them too. I think they are still around.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on July 30th, 2010 at 08:00 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
There is no comparison to Koni. Pay for quality European Dutch developed and made product and you will receive the appropriate quality. They are for
life. They are adjustable. You can have them rebuilt. Not a throw away item.
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Could not agree more .
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| posted on July 30th, 2010 at 10:04 PM |
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Bilstien is the only way to go.
http://www.eshocks.com/bil_Ind.asp?VC=4Q73&SubChar=Q
or
http://www.eshocks.com/bil_Ind.asp?VC=5Q73&SubChar=Q
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| posted on August 4th, 2010 at 10:27 AM |
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Hey 57Oval,
Do you know how much it cost to get 4 shocks in from the US with those guys? With the exchange rate it is only $300 AUD for a set of 4!!!  plus shipping i'm not sure but it wouldn't be too much more than
$500 AUD for the lot I'd hope
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| posted on August 4th, 2010 at 08:17 PM |
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posted by sander288
Hey 57Oval,
Do you know how much it cost to get 4 shocks in from the US with those guys? With the exchange rate it is only $300 AUD for a set of 4!!! plus shipping i'm not sure but it wouldn't be too much more than
$500 AUD for the lot I'd hope
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I remember i payed around $450 2 years ago compared to $380 each from the Bilstein dealer in NSW.
I have had a set of them in my 64 notch for over 20 years and they are still good today.
I tried the Pedders shocks when i got my oval back on the road, i paid $150 for them and wasted my money, never again.
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| posted on August 4th, 2010 at 09:23 PM |
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I remember i payed around $450 2 years ago compared to $380 each from the Bilstein dealer in NSW.
I have had a set of them in my 64 notch for over 20 years and they are still good today.
I tried the Pedders shocks when i got my oval back on the road, i paid $150 for them and wasted my money, never again.
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Sums it up pretty well I reckon
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| posted on August 6th, 2010 at 08:58 PM |
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So has anyone done anything recently...?
I was starting to think that KONI were the ones now someone i saying bilstien???
How much
Where from
(race and road beetle)
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| posted on August 7th, 2010 at 07:54 AM |
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I know sides has done something recently...
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| posted on August 7th, 2010 at 11:47 AM |
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pedders do have a touring shock option which is comparable to a more standard type shock and they feel really good in the beetles front or rear. they
go for $144pr and have an australia wide warranty (parts and labour), not like all the others which are a "back to base" warranty.
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| posted on August 7th, 2010 at 07:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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pedders do have a touring shock option which is comparable to a more standard type shock and they feel really good in the beetles front or rear. they
go for $144pr and have an australia wide warranty (parts and labour), not like all the others which are a "back to base" warranty.
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The fact that it's 'front or rear' tells you something....the front should have lighter valving than the rear due to the lighter vehicle
weight...face it, Pedders sell rebadged/painted cr@p that is not correct for our Volkswagens. Go with shocks that work...Nakata, Cofap, KYB, Boge,
Koni and Bilstein.
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| posted on August 24th, 2010 at 11:38 PM |
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I thought that there was only a couple of factories in the world that made shockies - and that everyone else just painted over them...
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| posted on August 28th, 2010 at 06:03 PM |
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Time to seal this thread, ordered 4 new Bilstein shocks from the company eshocks, to get the 4 delivered in 3 days was $323 USD, so about $370 AUD.
Fairly cuffed, and they should be good for wakefield in a few weeks, thanks 57Oval for the referral
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