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| posted on October 30th, 2010 at 10:12 AM |
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chassis number confirmation
 Who would have thought?? a new 60's beetle owner that has no idea
how to read his chassis number?? like you guys have never heard that
before!!
I have never posted in the Bug Forum as I have been building a Type 3 Notch, but I have just bought a beetle for my eldest son to do up and need to
confirm what year it is if possible.
I know this has been done to death because I actually searched the topic (crazy eh?)
My chassis number starts 195xxxxxx. Reading from other posts on the subject, the 9 indicates Australia, and I assume the 5 indicates 1965....but from
what I have already read, it appears this style of numbering started in 1966....??? Is this correct or am I right to assume that my bug is a 1965?
The other thing that seems wierd about this bug is that there is no headliner....(not like it has no headliner because someone has ripped it
out)....but it has no headliner AT ALL and appears to have no provision to actually install one. The interior roof looks like panels of steel, like a
second skin to the turret skin....is this a wierd mod that someone has done...or is it a factory pov pack or something?
Thanks in advance!
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| posted on October 30th, 2010 at 11:03 AM |
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is there a fuel gauge and glovebox lid?
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| posted on October 30th, 2010 at 01:15 PM |
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thanks for the reply Pod!
it has a glovebox lid with a chrome strip, but the guage panel has been hacked around with, so unable to tell if there was ever a fuel guage in the
proper location. There does appear to be a fuel tap in the firewall though (it doesnt appear to be connected to anything) but it just gets curiouser
and curiouser!
I also had a closer look at the inner roof panel and its not metal afterall, it looks to be wooden slats....I guess it just might be a previous owner
hack??
will try and get around to loading some photos soon....you'll have a good laugh at the guarge 'cluster'
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| posted on October 30th, 2010 at 07:56 PM |
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Congrats sounds like you and the young bloke are owners of a 65 standard, so yes pov pak
no full headliner and reserve tap were part of the package
The only had a very center section of the headliner, but these sometimes get ripped out when respraying
65 was the first year of the new vin numbering
I actually think i saw that one like tha on ebay is it a pale green?
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Scarab
Who would have thought?? a new 60's beetle owner that has no idea
how to read his chassis number?? like you guys have never heard that
before!!
I have never posted in the Bug Forum as I have been building a Type 3 Notch, but I have just bought a beetle for my eldest son to do up and need to
confirm what year it is if possible.
I know this has been done to death because I actually searched the topic (crazy eh?)
My chassis number starts 195xxxxxx. Reading from other posts on the subject, the 9 indicates Australia, and I assume the 5 indicates 1965....but from
what I have already read, it appears this style of numbering started in 1966....??? Is this correct or am I right to assume that my bug is a 1965?
The other thing that seems wierd about this bug is that there is no headliner....(not like it has no headliner because someone has ripped it
out)....but it has no headliner AT ALL and appears to have no provision to actually install one. The interior roof looks like panels of steel, like a
second skin to the turret skin....is this a wierd mod that someone has done...or is it a factory pov pack or something?
Thanks in advance!
Scarab (aka: Paul)
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Yes its a 1965 standard Beetle.. made in Australia..
had no glovebox lid, no fuel gauge, no interior lamp or door switches, no chrome hubcaps or bumpers, just painted..
only the centre of the roof was covered... rest was just painted.. no chrome or bright strips etc.. on running boards or body, or around windows
etc...
there seems to be a lot of these Aussie made standards and Custom beetles about Now...
so they must have been rust proofed good...
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 04:57 AM |
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the 19 started in 64 so you have chasis starting with 194....
and as pewr above u havea 65 standard bug
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 08:02 AM |
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They started putting glovebox lids and interior lights in standards from late 65/early 66
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 04:58 PM |
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okay...so it has a glovebox, but also has all the chrome trim etc.....well holes for it anyway
someone actaully suggested it was a Custom....what was involved with that model?
sorry Joel, must be a different one....mine is white....well, what is left of the paint anyway (someone had a half hearted attempt at stripping the
paint back)  i removed a couple of guards today and
one running board....the inner fenders and heater channel are immaculate!...there is one spot of rust, about the size of a 20c piece in the RHF inner
fender area....not bad for 45 years!
is there anyway of telling what month the car might have been made and even the original colour? There is a tag near the brake res. that says
S11598....would this give any clues??
I will try to upload a few photos later on. Thanks again for your input guys!
Cheers
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 05:39 PM |
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I have a standard to,and want to know what they did with the hole in the fuel tank for the sender,or did they not have a hole???
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 06:20 PM |
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they didnt have a hole blank tank very rare
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 06:38 PM |
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Thanks dave, mine has had a fuel gauge fitted at some stage and i want to go back to not having one,i might just make a blanking of plate???
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 06:58 PM |
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NO get a panel off a 68 or later there the same size as they had NO gauge
Or else u may make me look in to my stash n find an origional
I no i have one its just a matter of finding the bloody thing
I bougt a standard to get a front clip and keept all the good bits
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 07:18 PM |
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I have the original dash plates from a standard for no fuel gauge, i mean make a plate for the fuel tank,let me know what other parts you have for a
standard???
thanks shane.
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 07:21 PM |
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Sorry for hijacking your thread paul
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 07:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Scarab
okay...so it has a glovebox, but also has all the chrome trim etc.....well holes for it anyway
someone actaully suggested it was a Custom....what was involved with that model?
sorry Joel, must be a different one....mine is white....well, what is left of the paint anyway (someone had a half hearted attempt at stripping the
paint back) i removed a couple of guards today and
one running board....the inner fenders and heater channel are immaculate!...there is one spot of rust, about the size of a 20c piece in the RHF inner
fender area....not bad for 45 years!
is there anyway of telling what month the car might have been made and even the original colour? There is a tag near the brake res. that says
S11598....would this give any clues??
I will try to upload a few photos later on. Thanks again for your input guys!
Cheers
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Hi Paul,
Not much seems to be known about the custom beetle which had stainless steel bumpers with no over riders.
chromed hubcaps...
but they did have a Custom badge on the engine lid...
that's all I remember... lol
still looked very plain compared to the deluxe beetle with over riders etc... and chrome..
back then... lol
I believe they were actually an upgraded standard Beetle..
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 08:23 PM |
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There was a nice unmolested 67 custom around here but its been atleast 10 years since ive seen it.
outside it was just like a deluxe but has smoothy bumpers and no hood strip, everything was still chrome though
where as inside it was like a standard, center section headliner, no fuel gauge, no dash chrome strip and the upholstry was the single colour smooth
coles cafeteria stuff did have a glovebox lid though.
I remember a few years back someone on here found a barnfind 67 custom that was really unmolested that had heaps of pics
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 08:26 PM |
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no worries shane....Im happy to learn as much as I can too mate....so hijack away!!
Im totally interested to know what goes into making my car what it is.
By the way, I noticed that despite having been built in 1965....it appears to be the same as a 1964....smaller side windows, engine lid etc. Is this
due to Oz being so far away that we were 12 months behind the rest of the world with model updates?
Cheers!
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 08:31 PM |
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Seeing as you don't mind hi-jacks
heres the thread i was thinking off, was kroozn's old bug
A good example of what a 67 custom should look like
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=69337
Paul, aus was building our own bugs during the mid 60s so they didnt bother retooling for the big window bodys, thats why they stayed with small
window bodys till fatchicks started in 68
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 08:34 PM |
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My standard has the bonnet strip,and has painted flipper windows not chrome.
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| posted on October 31st, 2010 at 09:25 PM |
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aaahhhhh!!!!....now I get it, thanks Joel. I can understand why there was no body change now, cheers!
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| posted on November 1st, 2010 at 07:26 AM |
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It sounds like everyone else has already answered all your questions!
Yes the Australian 'Standard' was the stripped-down 'poverty pack' version of the normal Deluxe model. It was first introduced in August 1962, and
was sold alongside the Deluxe as a cheaper alternative. The Standard sold for around 800 pounds, and the Deluxe was around 900. It was not as popular
in the marketplace as people preferred to pay a bit extra for the Deluxe's goodies. I suppose it's the same today - the GTI is the biggest selling
version of the Golf in Australia.
As others have noted, the Standard gradually gained some of the Deluxe fittings. In 1966 the Deluxe went up to 1300cc, but the Standard remained
1200.
In 1967 the Standard also got the 1300 engine and mechanicals, and the trim and fittings improved further - it was almost as good as the Deluxe by
this stage. VW Australia renamed it the 'Custom'. It was sold alongside the Deluxe in 1967, and survived until mid-'68 while the Melbourne factory
was converted to CKD assembly of the German '68. Yes Australian 1958-67 Beetles all used the same body shell - we didn't get the Euro body shell
until the '68 model as Joel has said.
Read the Australian VW history here: http://www.clubvw.org.au/Australian%20VW%20history.htm
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| posted on November 1st, 2010 at 11:31 AM |
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Thanks heaps for that info! very comprehensive...and thanks for the link too....I will definitely be making a visit to the site.
Thanks agains everyone, appreciate your help!
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