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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 01:56 PM |
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Cut and turn beam.
A little bored so i started reading a little about cutting and turning your beam(beetle) to lower it,has anyone here done it,how far did you turn
it,do you have any pictures ??? just very curious to see how its done and the results???
cheers shane.
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 02:15 PM |
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Why do the mods keep moving my threads,this is a general question as much as a tech question.
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 02:23 PM |
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lowering+type+1+front+beam
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 02:25 PM |
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I have done that,as i said has anyone on here done it.
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 03:59 PM |
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use adjusters much better
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 04:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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use adjusters much better [/quote
I do use adjusters on my beams,im doing another narrowered balljointbeam at the moment i was just curious you dont see many people on here do it,im
guessing you cut and turn the bottom one???
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 04:29 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Why do the mods keep moving my threads,this is a general question as much as a tech question.
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it was moved to the right section by me because its more of a tech question than a general chitchat question as your asking for
numbers and how its been done by people
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| posted on December 26th, 2010 at 10:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I have done that,as i said has anyone on here done it.
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lol I couldn't resist though 
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| posted on December 27th, 2010 at 05:29 AM |
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alls good,i spent alot of time on google looking around but no one
shows you how they did it,like which tube you cut(im guessing bottom one)where you cut(im guessing out at the ends) how much you turn it,how much
lower it goes,i have heard of people doing it i was offered a beam once allready done but passed on it,i wonder why more people dont do it,is it a bad
thing ??? so no one here has done one
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| posted on December 27th, 2010 at 08:26 AM |
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You don't hear of it anymore because it just does not make sense to do it in this day and age when adjusters are cheap and readily available
The only reason anyone would do it is they're too tight to buy adjusters, it's almost the exact same amount of work to fit adjusters as to cut and
turn and atleast its adjustable then.
you don't know for sure how much a cut and turn will drop till its reassembled and then if its too low or not enough too bad unless you wanna go
through it all over again.
A couple with a 68 beetle in our local club had it done, it was about 15 years ago but they got a 2"ish drop by just having the top beam turned.
The ride was abit rough though
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| posted on December 27th, 2010 at 08:44 AM |
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I see what you mean about the amount of work in it,i thought they would turn the bottom one because it would be less work,you would be pissed if you
did it and it was to low,with this beam im doing now im going to use the avis adjusters,has anyone got any helpfull pictures,never done these ones
before ???????
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| posted on December 27th, 2010 at 09:51 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwmad
I see what you mean about the amount of work in it,i thought they would turn the bottom one because it would be less work,you would be pissed if you
did it and it was to low,with this beam im doing now im going to use the avis adjusters,has anyone got any helpfull pictures,never done these ones
before ???????
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Page 2 of my build
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=80275&page=2
But obviously you'll want you adjustment in the lowering direction not the raising.
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| posted on December 27th, 2010 at 09:58 AM |
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Smiley your link didnt work ???
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| posted on December 27th, 2010 at 10:53 PM |
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Very sorry. 
All fixed 
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 06:43 AM |
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That worked thanks smiley interesting thread a lot of work went
into getting your baja going again,nice work well done.
cheers shane.
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 02:24 PM |
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If people want to lower their cars, they would be best to avoid reading dribble like this. Turning one tube?? WTF.
Do it once, do it right.
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 02:32 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Do it once, do it right.
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Did you mean 'Do it right, do it once'?
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 02:43 PM |
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OK, if that's the way you want it. Happy New Year.
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 06:55 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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If people want to lower their cars, they would be best to avoid reading dribble like this.
You read it
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 10:22 PM |
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umm.......
Back on topic.
I would highly recommend the adjusters over the cut and turn method.
I don't really play with them much on my Baja cause I have her at a height that really suits me well, but for a lowered car it would be quite an
asset. You could have it low most of the time but if you knew that you were heading somewhere that clearance could be an issue you just screw the car
back up a tad.
The other good way to lower a Beetle is drop spindles, they leave the suspension geometry the same and don't change your travel. Might want to look
into legalities like anything nowadays.
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| posted on December 29th, 2010 at 05:52 AM |
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Im going narrowered beam with adjusters and drop spindles,i was just wondering about this way after seeing it on thesamba and was wondering if anyone
here has done it,i was allways doing adjusters with mine this is about the 3rd beetle beam i have done and 5 kombi beams,i think im sick of doing
them
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| posted on December 29th, 2010 at 08:55 AM |
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I have a beetle with a beam that has been lowered without the adjusters
I modified it about 20 years ago , it rides smooth, it still has travel and it will out live me.
The reason I cut and turned both tubes was to retain the smooth ride, I chose not to use the adjusters to retain the original strength.
In those days the Avis adjusters were not so readily available, the most common adjusters were the Allen Key jacking screw type, still very common now
but I wouldn't trust them.
Some of my other cars have the Steal Avis type adjusters (watch out for those local half alloy ones)
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| posted on January 7th, 2011 at 10:01 PM |
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Johny Rotten
Are there are issues with the allen key type?
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| posted on January 7th, 2011 at 10:14 PM |
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same as jr..about 20 years ago cut and turned both beams about 12-15 degrees. ie removed torsion leaves ,cut one ,turned it and welded it up then cut,
turned and welded the other the same amount, worked fine. the guy who welded it insisted on bracing across the welded portion. still fine today. from
memory 12-15 degrees on a 1500 bug was about 50mm drop
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| posted on January 7th, 2011 at 10:48 PM |
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I did cut and turn cause i was too tight for adjusters (uni student wage... its a hard life  )
But that was for raising the beam for my baja.
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 08:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Are there are issues with the allen key type?
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Yep they are shit
bout as good as those Red Poly torsion arm bushings
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