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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 08:32 PM |
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super bug adjustable struts
have a 74 super which needs lowering in the front. what are the options? have seen everything from empi to v force. need some honest opinions on what
people are using.
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 08:54 PM |
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i got mine from vintage vw in the 90's, mine are still good. and i can get a deal on kyb shocks for them too from a supplier. replacements.
i think possibly v-force, might take a while as he makes to order.
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 09:03 PM |
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You need to look to be 100% sure if you have 2 or 3 bolt
Also work out what wheel you want to run.
If it is 6" or wider you will need thin springs
Personally I have/like/recommend V Force
The way the $$$ is importing a set of Maxx struts could be ok
http://toplineparts.com/pricelist/pricelist.htm
By the time you put inserts in the MaXX Extreme I reckon the V Force would be better/cheaper
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 09:22 PM |
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im using the vforce and cant fault them. very nice ride
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 10:38 PM |
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have been in a car with the cheap topline option, was nice, but too soft to run more than an inch or so lower than stock without tyres rubbing
(colonel mustard)
whatever joel is sunning currently/3months ago, felt nice, especially for the lowness of it
myself i have V-force, undriven but went with that after various opinions & the pitiful dollar helped the decision too
IF you go down & chat to richard you will probably end up going that option too, local after sales support may come in handy for you if anything
needs adjusting
you can get them from basic coilover to, helper springs with hard springs, different levels of inserts & adjustable tops 
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 10:48 PM |
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Those are my old struts in colonel mustard yeah?
stock springs were their let down, firmer springs and they would be a winner.
Still Topline Maxx in mine but I've got some stiffer springs from Richard to chuck in them.
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 11:06 PM |
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indeed, but attempting to say its more worthwhile than a camera lense etc is fighting an uphill battle 
yours seem to be a decent combo, bang for buck wise 
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 11:25 PM |
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just to clarify, i spoke to boris who,s option was to drop down 2 inches the spring carrier and upgrade the insert. which would be an economical
option. the empi ones i,m a bit sketchy on simply because they are empi. Sherman does a set of adjustable ones with lowered inserts for around the 440
mark and i believe the vforce ones are about the 1100 mark.i will be running 5.5 inch flat four sprintstars with 135 michelins. are the sherman ones
better then then the empi ones, are the v force ones really necessary for a street car. once the front end has new struts should you change sway bar
thickness or stay with the original size?
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| posted on July 7th, 2011 at 11:32 PM |
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ive got the original sway bar with the vforce struts. they are well worth it, trust me.
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| posted on July 8th, 2011 at 09:41 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by scot70wagon
just to clarify, i spoke to boris who,s option was to drop down 2 inches the spring carrier and upgrade the insert. which would be an economical
option. the empi ones i,m a bit sketchy on simply because they are empi. Sherman does a set of adjustable ones with lowered inserts for around the 440
mark and i believe the vforce ones are about the 1100 mark.i will be running 5.5 inch flat four sprintstars with 135 michelins. are the sherman ones
better then then the empi ones, are the v force ones really necessary for a street car. once the front end has new struts should you change sway bar
thickness or stay with the original size?
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With sprint stars you can stay stock spring size so no need to go OTT with narrow coil struts.
Are Shermans struts definately adjustables?
I know he has always sold fixed height lowered ones but didn't know if he was now making adjustables.
all depends on how you drive as to whether a sway bar upgrade is good value or not.
I've got a 7/8" topline lowered swaybar on mine and it's night and day but I do push it pretty hard through corners and once you get below a 2"
drop the stock sway bar throws castor out the window.
Also not worth working the front too much without doing some upgrades to the rear.
Rear sway bars are abit of a problem at the moment unless you buy overseas.
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| posted on July 8th, 2011 at 11:15 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by scot70wagon
.i will be running 5.5 inch flat four sprintstars with 135 michelins.
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brave man 
Just lower the cup then
There is no need to go to the expense of the thin springs
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| posted on July 9th, 2011 at 06:44 AM |
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shermans adjust in 2 inch increments. up 2, down either 2 or 4 inch. i have not seen them but the rest of his conversion stuff seems highly rated. as
i drive fairly sedately the front end drop is more an aesthetic thing not based on overall cornering ability as the 135 look good but have their
limitations in any hard cornering situation. if you drop 4 inches is it mandatoryto update to an adjustable swaybar as i remember them as being a pain
in the ass from the old ford mcpherson strut front end i used to muck around with in escorts. basicly i want a decent ride with the front nice and
low. i have spoken to a few guys who reckon to lower the cup will result in an unsatisfactory ride. Obviously the v force struts are primo but i
suppose the two lesser costing options are what i,m looking at at the moment, down the track i can always upgrade. Modified standard or shermans?
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| posted on July 9th, 2011 at 08:46 AM |
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Scot
you NEED to check if you are 2 bolt or 3
2 bolt only goes a 2" drop
3 bolt can do 4"
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| posted on August 22nd, 2011 at 05:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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indeed, but attempting to say its more worthwhile than a camera lense etc is fighting an uphill battle
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Priorities and interests change friend
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| posted on August 22nd, 2011 at 06:05 PM |
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Who the bloody hell are you? 
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| posted on August 24th, 2011 at 10:03 PM |
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a wiser man.
Hi Joel!!! hope you are well
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