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 Aussie Dubbin
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 08:09 AM |
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Engine tinware what can i leave off
Hi lads,
i was aout to put the ingine in my car when i remembered that i need to put more tinware on than i am used to. My other bugs i have had baja and buggy
havent needed much tin. This is the firsttime i am putting an engine into a beetle.
I have the fanshroud and the barrel covers on top, the ones between the barrels and the pushrods. ut then what...
Do i need one on the flywheel side ... above
under pulley?
Around the pulley?
I have replaced the rubber around the engine bay
WHat do you do about the big holes used for the heaters and other?
Sorry that they sound like noob Qs
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 08:48 AM |
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 09:54 AM |
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Ok, mine's a buggy but every time I take it to Nymeyers' at Belmont (VW specialists) he berates me with the information that "you should have ALL
THE TINWARE on, THEY WERE MADE THAT WAY FOR A REASON", mind you I do have all the tinware on, he just wants to remind me, I reckon on a beetle it
would be esential. 
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 10:07 AM |
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Proven this many times myself, but basically if you leave ANY of the tinware off and the engine will run hotter.... period.
If you're only doing short little runs (eg hillclimbs or lapdash) then not having the piece above the flywheel (front plate I think it's called) or
the one above the exhaust (breast plate) plus the one under the pulley probably aren't critical... but then they don't weigh much either, so if
you've got 'em I reckon put em on.
Also there are two little vertical pieces at the back of #2 and #4 that you need to have... they cause the air to go right around the cylinders.
About the only piece I'd ever leave off is the one ABOVE the pulley, and that's only cos I can never find one that's clean and fits !!!
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 AM |
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Sides is onto it. Don't take any off, you'll find your probably missing some anyhow.
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 10:58 AM |
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U need them all to make it run at the correct temp
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 11:54 AM |
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It still blows me away the amount of bugs around you see missing the breast plate, one of the most important pieces for stopping the fan sucking in
all the hot air off the heads and muffler.
All these non-vw savvy mechanics must just thing meh I can see the ground in every other cars engine bay, over the back fence you go.
You can always pick which bugs will be missing them, it's usually always convertibles or old shitters with carerra kits and a whale tail.
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 12:01 PM |
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Put all the tinware back on and block the holes off!
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Aussie Dubbin
Hi lads,
i was aout to put the ingine in my car when i remembered that i need to put more tinware on than i am used to. My other bugs i have had baja and buggy
havent needed much tin. This is the firsttime i am putting an engine into a beetle.
I have the fanshroud and the barrel covers on top, the ones between the barrels and the pushrods. ut then what...
Do i need one on the flywheel side ... above
under pulley?
Around the pulley?
I have replaced the rubber around the engine bay
WHat do you do about the big holes used for the heaters and other?
Sorry that they sound like noob Qs
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YES.. YES.. YES..
You need them ALL....
ALL the HOT AIR MUST remain below the tinware... that is what the rubber seal is for....
Basically.. You should NOT be able to see the road when looking at the engine... ALL holes should be blocked off..
using anything You can fit in the holes...
LEE
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 02:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sides
Proven this many times myself, but basically if you leave ANY of the tinware off and the engine will run hotter.... period.
Also there are two little vertical pieces at the back of #2 and #4 that you need to have... they cause the air to go right around the cylinders.
About the only piece I'd ever leave off is the one ABOVE the pulley, and that's only cos I can never find one that's clean and fits !!!
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Hi Dave
that one does nothing???
and they take a bit of grinding to fit an alloy pulley...
LEE
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 04:52 PM |
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the clever guy that designed the tin ware was no fol sit back and look inside the engine bay there should be no gap between the sides and engine,the
idea was to only get cold air from the top of the engine lid not the hot stuff below the tinware
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 05:19 PM |
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... and never paint your engine bay red and yellow, that helps too
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| posted on November 23rd, 2011 at 05:46 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by MISS VDUB
... and never paint your engine bay red and yellow, that helps too
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