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| posted on December 3rd, 2011 at 06:01 PM |
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Too rich?
I'm thinking too rich? All 4 plugs look the same. Any other opinions? The motor is a 1600TP with an EMPI (Weber) 32/36 carb.
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| posted on December 3rd, 2011 at 07:10 PM |
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http://www.procharge.com.au/images/stories/images/faults/spark_plug_test.jpg
follow the link, usually a good place too start.
It looks rich, but also could be weak ignition
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| posted on December 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 PM |
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Yea get a single new plug and connect to a lead and crank her over holding the plug to an earth point. If the spark is good thick blue you are good.
If weak and yellow then either coil feed issue or coil is on it's last legs.
Also, the 32/36 webber isn't a very good carb on a VW as fuel easily falls out of suspension. These need an experienced rolling roader with good carb
knowledge to jet correctly as he will have to mess around with the emulsion tube to get optimum fuelling.
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| posted on December 4th, 2011 at 11:37 AM |
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good call on the carb, those single webers whether a progressive or IDF usually are tuned REAL rich to make them run; you'll need to see if your
getting manifold heat as psimitar said the fuel does fall out of suspension if there isn't enough manifold heat.
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| posted on December 5th, 2011 at 11:03 AM |
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Thanks guys. I had the carb jetted and dyno tuned at Leon Motors a year ago and it was phenomenal. It ran beautifully and made really good power. I
feel like I've been chasing that perfect tune ever since. Sure I could just take it back to Leons for another go on the dyno, but where's the fun
in that! 
Good point regarding possible weak ignition. I'll check that as soon as I can.
I leaned out the mix slightly on the weekend and adjusted the spark gap whilst I was there. She seems to be running a bit better today, but
perhaps that's just a placebo effect.
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| posted on December 5th, 2011 at 05:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by btc-er
I had the carb jetted and dyno tuned at Leon Motors a year ago and it was phenomenal. It ran beautifully and made really good power. I feel like
I've been chasing that perfect tune ever since.
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Then it isnt jetting
It is either mixture screws or as said, maybe the coil
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| posted on December 5th, 2011 at 11:53 PM |
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yea if it was properly dyno'd then apart from cleaning out the jets it'll be ignition related 
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| posted on December 9th, 2011 at 06:13 PM |
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I tested the coil as per the instructions in the idiot book and videoed for posterity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0hqPhq9ar4&feature=youtu.be
What do you think? Is the coil dodgy? The spark doesn't seem terribly impressive to me.
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| posted on December 9th, 2011 at 11:33 PM |
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So I saw 2 sparks then. Yellow in colour and looked thickish but hard to tell from pixilation in the video.
Should be nice thick and blue. Try powering the coil direct from the battery thro a 10amp switch to rule out voltage drop thro old wiring and ign
switch. If still weak looking and yellow then try to borrow a new or good coil as the quality of the coils these days ain't great as even Bosch get
there stuff made in China.
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| posted on December 10th, 2011 at 09:01 AM |
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Do your spark test but cranking the engine over with the key. You will not only get more sparks to see, but also under actual starting
voltages/conditions. Looked weak but enough in the vid, should get close to 10mm on a GOOD coil, more for a mega set-up.
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| posted on December 10th, 2011 at 04:02 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by btc-er
Thanks guys. I had the carb jetted and dyno tuned at Leon Motors a year ago and it was phenomenal. It ran beautifully and made really good power. I
feel like I've been chasing that perfect tune ever since. Sure I could just take it back to Leons for another go on the dyno, but where's the fun
in that!
Good point regarding possible weak ignition. I'll check that as soon as I can.
I leaned out the mix slightly on the weekend and adjusted the spark gap whilst I was there. She seems to be running a bit better today, but
perhaps that's just a placebo effect.
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Hi
If you are running points and a condensor... it may be the condensor... as they were replaced along with the dissy cap and rotor button every year or
so originally...
Have You checked out the spark plug leads?
especially the coil high tension lead..
if its the silicone type... then they can break down internally..
resulting in a weak spark...
Is Your ignition power supplied thru the ignition switch...??
You should be using a relay mounted near the battery, so You get 12+ volts at the coil... [hot start kit]
as the voltage thru the ignition switch can vary greatly due to the contacts in the ignition switch being burnt etc..
cheers
LEE
it pays to have lots of spares when You live a long way from VW shops etc.... Lee
- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
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