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posted on March 14th, 2012 at 01:06 PM
55 Oval Resto


I've had this 55 oval for a while now - acquired as part trade for my 63 ragtop...(thought this was a 54 but chassis number turns out to be 55)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Sep12oval.jpg

It served as a daily driver for quite a while with a 2in beam, BRMs but otherwise pretty standard...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/KlubFest07030.jpg

It did a stint with my Type IV upright converted motor before that was sold....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Jan2typeIV9.jpg

A few years back I decided to give it a freshen up for the Warwick VW drag meet which included a repaint in Savannah beige:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Oct1painted2.jpg

Rod R kindly loaned me his 1916 type I for the Warwick meet but despite a few all nighters to get the car finished, I managed to sieze the motor on the line before even one pass!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Oct4pits.jpg

So after being stored for the last couple of years I've decided to give it a more comprehensive repaint (body off pan....but not bare metal as the paint has remained very stable and a lot of the bodywork was done first time around).

I want to put some focus into my 54 barndoor and hence have decided to get both the body and pan into paint and then sell the oval....if someone wants us to complete it of course we can do it, but for now I just want to get the paint on, and body back on pan and go from there :)




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posted on March 14th, 2012 at 01:15 PM



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posted on March 14th, 2012 at 01:16 PM



First order of business was to replace the bent and rusty rear H-apron....picked up one off AVD (repro'd in Europe) and whilst it was better than what else is available, still needed a fair few tweaks
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmockup1.jpg

The lower edges didn't line up with the guards however this was easy to rectify:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmockup2.jpg

The big problem was the top edges not lining up with the body, despite the seal retaining strip (for engine bay seal) being in alignment
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmockup3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmockup4.jpg

Basically had to cut and shut the curvature both in height and in width to get it to sit right
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmods1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmods2.jpg

Given the oval is not dead original (don't have OG engine or beam etc), I opted for a removable rear apron setup in case someone wants to go big in the engine deparment down the track
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmods3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar8apronmods4.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar10apronrectified2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar10apronrectified3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar10apronrectified1.jpg

Thats about it to date, the rest of the resto will be in real time....I'm going to push this one pretty hard so hopefully progress and updates will be fairly rapid :)

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posted on March 14th, 2012 at 06:18 PM



Hi Al,
Great to see it being done, sad to hear your selling it. Can the new owner have any colour they like except silver? Maybe a good selling pitch?
Can you tell me where the repro apron is from? Just bought one, hooping it fits better.
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posted on March 14th, 2012 at 06:34 PM



Will look nice next to the Ragtop........:lol::kiss:



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posted on March 14th, 2012 at 09:32 PM



Let me know what colour you want Craig, just not allowed silver :)

Heath I bought the repro apron from AVD - will have to go back through old pms to find out supplier (was eastern europe possibly?)




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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 06:37 AM



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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 06:39 AM



Can you please just keep it and put that turbo engine in it. You gotta have some vw for yourself.



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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 07:43 AM



Damo......barndoor bus + 2442 turbo = fun (but lots of $$$) :yes:

This was a custom olive mix I came up with for a 56 that recently went to sydney....probably won't go as dark this time
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/Als%2056%20Oval/Nov18body1.jpg




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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 08:43 AM



This was the 80s-inspired "Rad Bug" we built for the same year at Warwick running my brother in laws 2110 engine.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/55%20Oval/Oct2stacked.jpg

And the oval with Rod R's type I 1916 that I siezed before a run
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/55%20Oval/Oct3finalprep.jpg

Area under the rear side window seals were very slightly pitted so it was taken back to bare metal, any pits zipped with the mig to ensure the metal wasn't too thin, then dressed back and acid treated
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/55%20Oval/Mar14windowsilltreatment.jpg

Front apron is nasty and will be repaired properly
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/55%20Oval/Mar14nastywheelwell2.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/55%20Oval/Mar14nastywheelwell1.jpg

Work starts on that today/tonight
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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 03:52 PM



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Damo......barndoor bus + 2442 turbo = fun (but lots of $$$) :yes:

This was a custom olive mix I came up with for a 56 that recently went to sydney....probably won't go as dark this time
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/Als%2056%20Oval/Nov18body1.jpg


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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 07:48 PM



That must be a pretty familiar hue to you Shane! Hope the reassembly is going well.

Bit more on the 54 today....front apron was a little hammered as they (almost) all are (esp when lowered)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15aprondamaged.jpg

After cutting out the rusty/poorly patched wheel well, some hammer and dolly work was far easier to get the major dents out
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15apronpanelbeaten.jpg

Small spot of rust on the left side was an odd spot (perfect on teh right side) so this was welded up today (forgot to get a pic)....more tomorrow
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15apronrustspot.jpg

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posted on March 15th, 2012 at 08:31 PM



Im slowly getting there al ,the pan was a little more crusty than i thought so im changing the pan halfs,motor started and compression tested at 125 on all cylinders,looks like its had some work at some point its very clean in the heads etc.
Its ready to go back in,im going for the vintage speed look.
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posted on March 16th, 2012 at 04:09 PM



FANTASTIC WORK ........!



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posted on March 16th, 2012 at 07:40 PM



Looks great Shane - will be a perfect compliment to the 56.

Back onto the 54 today...
Pan is in excellent shape - couple of holes (urgent battery clamp) to weld up but otherwise just needs some prep before it goes onto the rotisserie for two pack paint. External larger diameter fuel line was for the type IV engine....will be removed before paint
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15panpriortowork.jpg

After cutting the bulk of the old wheel well out, the next step was to carefully drill out the spot welds
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15wellremoval3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15wellremoval1.jpg
Wurth spot weld removal bits are effective
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15wellremoval2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar15wellremoval4.jpg

After some tweaking the spare wheel well went in and was plug welded from the underside and welds dressed
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork3.jpg




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posted on March 16th, 2012 at 07:46 PM



Are you going to leave the fuel line under the car or move it to inside the tunnel ?



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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork4.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork5.jpg

After a thorough sand then acid treatment (deoxidine), the bare metal was given a couple of coats of two pack epoxy primer. Next seam sealer will be applied along with some minor filler work
The metal on the front roll was worked as far it could be without thinning it out excessively - very little filler will be required
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork7.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork8.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork9.jpg

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar16apronwork6.jpg




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Are you going to leave the fuel line under the car or move it to inside the tunnel ?


The one under the car will be removed Craig. Unless otherwise specified by a potential new owner, I'll just leave the stock one in situ (still functional)




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posted on March 18th, 2012 at 04:04 PM



Front valance now ready for primer after a thin skim of filler
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar17frontapronfillerskim.jpg

Rear guards are back on for some tweaking to align better with rear valance and fix a crack in lower left guard edge
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar17rearvalancefinalwork.jpg

Door hinge pins will be replaced next along with some rust repair on drivers side lower a-pillar....then body will come off the pan.
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posted on March 19th, 2012 at 07:02 AM



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posted on March 19th, 2012 at 09:58 PM



Cheers Clint :kiss:

Left rear guard had a split on rear lower edge - since the metal was fairly thin, a weld would have resulted in the crack reappearing
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rearguardrepair1.jpg

So a small repair section was welded in
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rearguardrepair2.jpg

One thing that annoyed me was this area of the left rear guard - the beading hides some variances in the body to guard tolerance, but this gap was too big for my liking
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rightrearguardrepair1.jpg

I had the choice to build up the edge with welds, or cut the guard, close up the gap and reweld (chose the latter option)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rightrearguardrepair2.jpg

This pic shows the cut size grew once the gap was closed up
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rightrearguardrepair3.jpg

I didn't want to do a double long butt weld (by welding a piece in) so the slow process of building up the tacks, dressing them, and welding some more whislt controlling heat ensued
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rightrearguardrepair4.jpg

Some mild planishing and then welds dressed smooth....small amount of filler to come and the bad gap is gone
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar19rightrearguardrepair5.jpg




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posted on March 19th, 2012 at 10:07 PM



Loving this, nice work man. what type of carbs and linkage setup were they on the motor you took a pic of ?



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Cheers Tarin, the carbs on my type IV motor were 40mm Dellortos with CB Performance linkage....teh latter photo with type I engine were Webers as far as I can remember wiht same sort of linkage (was a borrowed motor so can't remember the specs).
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posted on March 20th, 2012 at 04:17 PM



wow great build thread!
Congratulations the Oval is looking great..
What kind of price range are you going to be asking in when moving it on?




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Congratulations the Oval is looking great..
What kind of price range are you going to be asking in when moving it on?


cheers Benny, not 100% sure what the figure will be - it is highly dependent on how much time I invest in the oval and how complete (or incomplete) it is at time of sale (re. beam/gearbox etc etc).....and most imporantly what the market is willing to pay.
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The lower edge of the front right guard has annoyed me for a while now as it tapers away from the valance
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar20frontrightguardwork1.jpg

Initially I was going to pie cut it and reweld, but it needed to be tweaked a little too far for a single cut
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar20frontrightguardwork2.jpg

So a section was cut out, new piece fabricated and welded in
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar20frontrightguardwork3.jpg

Tacked and tweaked....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Dasdubber/54%20Oval/Mar20frontrightguardwork4.jpg

Its these little things that you don't notice when the car is finished....but if not rectified end up standing out....all time consuming niggly stuff :)
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posted on March 20th, 2012 at 08:07 PM



This really is a quality build. Love your work Al.
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I appreciate your posts and pics, great motivation for an amateur like me to try and emulate your work, never will though but it's the inspiration that counts!
I am doing little "niggly" bits on my '69 body now for an EV conversion and love seeing what can be achieved as per your '54
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posted on March 21st, 2012 at 05:40 PM



Thanks Al
Its great to see someone who takes pride in their work and wants it to look as good as possible...
Ive always been told "Do it once,do it right".
Ill definitely be following this build thread!
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posted on March 22nd, 2012 at 07:32 PM



Nice work Al - look forward to the thread progressing. Shame you can't hang on to the car after the work you will be putting into it. How far are you going to take the resto before selling?
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