Board Logo
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
[ Total Views: 703 | Total Replies: 8 | Thread Id: 99428 ]
Author: Subject:  bolt in pulley & sand seal
Memberbugzla
Custom Title Time!
*****


No Avatar


Posts: 1164
Threads: 240
Registered: June 9th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: townsville
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: always happy

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 07:03 PM
bolt in pulley & sand seal


pulley and sand seal do they work and seal or do you need to machine the case
MemberCraig Torrens
A.k.a.: Craig Torrens
Scirocco Rare
6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
*********


Avatar


Posts: 8040
Threads: 347
Registered: January 10th, 2003
Member Is Offline

Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Time to go Salt lake racing, and actually achieve a result.

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 07:04 PM



yep they work, and there's no need to machine the case. I have them on my motors and have had no probs at all.



Super Moderatormatberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
*******

Rank Avatar

Avatar


Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 07:10 PM



yep, I;ve fitted a few. No probs yet, I did hear someone calling them 'case wreckers', so maybe some have issues. I always make sure they are super cleaned and glued and tight in the case. On Bluey's flogged 1915, the insert was loose in the case and needed to be shimmed. It has done around 5000km to date, sealed a very leaky engine.



Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/20032011354-2.jpg
Memberbugzla
Custom Title Time!
*****


No Avatar


Posts: 1164
Threads: 240
Registered: June 9th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: townsville
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: always happy

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 07:27 PM



cool banana's for the xmas list then any kits to stay away from
Super Moderatormatberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
*******

Rank Avatar

Avatar


Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 09:07 PM



MST is a better version as it has mounting tabs that you can use for small screws to positively secure the insert if necessary, and thier gear seems better than average.



Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/20032011354-2.jpg
Memberbajachris88
A.k.a.: Chris Leete
23 Windows of Awesome
The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 672.
********


Avatar


Posts: 6661
Threads: 534
Registered: April 8th, 2005
Member Is Offline

Location: Tanah Merah, SE-QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: A bee bit ma' bottom, now ma' bottom's big!

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 10:35 PM



Stick clear of the EMPI one. i had the seal come loose in the slip-in style housing. made a hell of a mess. Smoke out the back in in the cabin on the highway to warwick 2011 made me fear an engine bay fire :lol::rolleyes:

Original VW style was for the crank pulley to not be sealed such that air would pass into the case, and vent out the vacuum of the stock breather. If the vw engine is exposed often to excessive dust (eg. baja/buggy offroad), you could imagine where its going to go (eek!). However there was a point to this breathing methodology to reprocess and combust any crankcase blowby and keep it out of the oil.

Bit more of a read here:
http://www.vw-resource.com/air_cleaner.html#crankcase 

I slabbed a loctite equivalent but cheaper 'bearing retaining compound' to assist in holding the seal mount in place.

Word of warning, alot of sand seal kits are listed as having either 6 inch pulleys or don't say anything in regards to the diameter, excluding the important fact that they are smaller diameter than stock crank pulleys (IE: Power pulleys). Of course, this reduces reduces fan speed due to pulley ratio. Insist on 7inch stock diameter style pulley unless you specifically want the power pulley style for your application (Eg: deliberate higher typical engine rpms than stock or short drive duration). And be aware you will need a specific 'sand seal' pulley without the oil slinger swirl, and will need a longer crank pulley bolt.




(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. :tu:
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Memberbugzla
Custom Title Time!
*****


No Avatar


Posts: 1164
Threads: 240
Registered: June 9th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: townsville
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: always happy

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 10:49 PM



thanks chris just been onto mst websight and it all looks good its in a manx and there is always huge amounts of dust here in townsville i want to cover all bases before i get her fired up
cheers
stevo
Super Moderatormatberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
*******

Rank Avatar

Avatar


Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3

posted on October 28th, 2012 at 10:55 PM



Sorry mate, don't agree with that article. The spiral relies on a close tolerance to the case for effictive operation, I very much doubt there is much air flow through the pulley scroll, the scroll grooves don't even go to the outside of the block (except on type three pulleys)



Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/20032011354-2.jpg
Member68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
**********


Avatar


Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -

posted on October 29th, 2012 at 10:10 AM



I have heard that if the seaL LEAKS, it REALLY leaks bad

LEE




- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]


  Go To Top


Powered by GaiaBB, © 2011 The GaiaBB Group
(C) 2001-2024 Aussieveedubbers

[ Queries: 40 ] [ PHP: 3.1% - SQL: 96.9% ]