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posted on November 28th, 2012 at 01:23 PM
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Hey all
the time has come for an new engine for our beetle.
I put in a second hand 1200 to get us by last year but its very sad and we plan on having our bug long term.
I would like to go 1500 or 1600

any suggestions/experiences with suppliers?

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posted on November 28th, 2012 at 05:39 PM



Talk to rod penrose he has everything you need. And his price is good.
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posted on November 28th, 2012 at 06:51 PM



a nice 1600 would be the same price as a 1500 but im not sure if rod dose engines this small :lol:



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posted on November 29th, 2012 at 08:01 AM



yeah checked his site doesn't seem he does, but best to ask i guess.



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posted on November 29th, 2012 at 08:36 PM



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posted on November 29th, 2012 at 08:43 PM



Can you still get the new Mexican motors??



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posted on December 1st, 2012 at 10:37 AM



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posted on December 1st, 2012 at 11:54 AM



just import a 1600 motor from OS....heaps cheaper than paying for one here.:tu:



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posted on December 2nd, 2012 at 06:58 PM



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yeah checked his site doesn't seem he does, but best to ask i guess.


Ring Rod, i,m sure he will get you what ever you need.
A nice 1776 would be cool.:tu:

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posted on December 8th, 2012 at 10:16 PM



Who would you recommend from OS ?




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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 11:22 AM



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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 12:27 PM



not gex or bergmann. very bad reps for both



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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 03:09 PM



I have both and they seem fine. have you ever had experience with either Barls?



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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 04:19 PM



Howz about
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Our reco 1600TP we got for our 63 beetle is a little ripper..:tu:
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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 04:22 PM



you must of been one of the lucky ones there on both companies from what ive seen from both.
have a search on both the samba and shoptalk about them and make your own mind up about them.
i built my last recoed 1600 with the old mans help over a weekend.




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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 05:54 PM



Agreed, GEX is known world wide as selling the shittiest excuses for engines.

Engines from them that give no problems are just ones they bought built by someone else and slapped their stickers on.

THere are threads full of horror stories and pics of the kind of crap GEX does like engines with holes smashed in the case from a thrown rod filled in with JB weld and using booker rod from the hardware store as head studs.....

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/283334.jpg


Overseas is a long way to go for warranty problems.
especially when there is still good engine builders in Aus and those new Mexi crate motors are cheaper than a full rebuild.

I would personally go a factory crate engine.
Everything is brand new and not a 40 year old case etc
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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 07:30 PM



Quote:
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just import a 1600 motor from OS....heaps cheaper than paying for one here.:tu:

yep great idea, I agreed years ago
did that years ago all was good, great price heaps of hp etc.. but..
The cracked case was NOT on the order sheet.. septic A holes :grind:
listen up.. fook OS BS
been there done that and absolutely NO NIL NOTHING recourse.. kiss goodbye your hard earned..
moving on..
get an Aussie built one :tu:
matty b in Qld, Wayne penrose, stan Pobjoy, pete Richards in nsw n others in Australia WILL have guarantees unlike OS BS I have experienced first hand
ask around here n there before you put the reddies on the table
pm peeps to keep it to yourself, it's all good
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posted on December 9th, 2012 at 08:30 PM



How does one get their mitts on a Mexican exchange motor?



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posted on December 13th, 2012 at 08:04 AM



great input and advice here thanks everyone... :)



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posted on December 13th, 2012 at 08:30 AM



This was from a cheap rebuilt US engine. The guy was real happy with all the money he saved. It didn't even turn a wheel. Siezed before he could tune the carbs....the pic shows the rocker gear ....sand blasted without disassembly , and of course full of grit !!!!!

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posted on December 19th, 2012 at 01:33 PM



http://www.piersideparts.net/veedub/X-engines.html 



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posted on December 19th, 2012 at 08:09 PM



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Interesting, I don't see any warranty info on that link. I suppose it doesn't matter, it's not like you'd send it back to the US for a claim.
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posted on December 21st, 2012 at 02:48 PM



Be my luck to buy a lemon from OS! So at this stage still striping the 1200 to see how bad it is, If it is too rooted then we will take the bug off the road and save...



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posted on December 21st, 2012 at 10:09 PM



Nice one mate. Once you start thinking 1776 then 1835 and 1916 are not that unrealistic. Not a great more in $'s when comparing the step up in HP. It is only once you start changing up the crank to a stroker that the $'s start to kick in. It is all the other bits and pieces, and case work, that cost!

Really depends on what you are after, reliability or a weekender that you can whip the living day lights out of! I prefer the latter :cool:
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posted on December 21st, 2012 at 10:18 PM



By the way, stay away from crate motors IMHO. I have read plenty about warranties, or lack thereof, and questionable components leading to early retirement. If you plan it right, you can buy all you need, selecting decent bits, from the states for a VERY reasonable cost (and cheaper than here in Oz, including shipping). Also heaps more to choose from. Don't get me wrong, I support Aussie sellers as well! The only handbrake can be hitting the $1000 threshold but if you are OCD like me, then you can work out the best way to arrange your goods to scrape in under every time (shipping does not count toward the $1000 threshold)
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posted on December 26th, 2012 at 01:18 PM
yep there we have it


Split the case today! Beer and tame impala helped.
Here is what i found!
No wonder the little bugger sounded terrible when this happened..

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posted on December 26th, 2012 at 06:58 PM



Hmmmm, I could be wrong but I think it's broken!!! Ah well, at least now you know what you've got.

Looks like a good excuse to upgrade.
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posted on December 29th, 2012 at 01:00 PM



Yeah rego just run out, so has a cover over it in in the shed now, could be a year or two till i save up, things are tight. :( arhh well



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posted on December 30th, 2012 at 10:59 AM



Ah the old snapped crank gag.

Reminds of the story from one of the old timers on STF that worked at a dealership, an old girl brought her 59 bug into the dealership complaining its using alot of oil.
they found the crank had cracked and told her she needed an engine rebuild.
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By the way, stay away from crate motors IMHO. I have read plenty about warranties, or lack thereof, and questionable components leading to early retirement.


Interesting, are you talking about the Mexican VW factory engines?

When I asked Micks about them he speaks highly of them and has sold a heap of them with only one so far had a bearing fail and was replaced under warranty.
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posted on December 30th, 2012 at 06:57 PM



oh thats looks nice :)
you have a welder right ????




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